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Mind elaborating?

by orf 8y ago

Mind elaborating?

nolok 8y ago
I guess he means something like all requests to www.yoursite.com/foo123/BAR proxies to www.soulsucking.com/BAR
munchbunny 8y ago
I'm not the parent poster, but I worked in ad tech. With third party cookie policies getting more stringent, many websites now use either a reverse proxy within the first party domain that points to third party servers, or they use a first party subdomain that points to third party servers. In either case, it allows the servers belonging to the data gatherer to appear as first party, thus getting around third party cookie restrictions. Combine that with browser fingerprinting, and you now have a harder but very viable way to replace the functionality third party cookies previously had.
k__ 8y ago
A company has multiple websites and all of them use a reverse proxy for tracking. (a webserver that is between clients and the real webserver and just "proxies" requests and responses between them, logging all that happens) This is completely transparent from the outside.
- greenshackle2 8y ago
  This is rather offtopic but it bothers me how most people in IT seem to use 'transparent' to mean 'opaque'. When I hear PMs say "this change will be completely transparent to clients" what they mean is, the client will see no difference, which means really, the details are hidden in a black - opaque - box.
  - mehrdadn 8y ago
    It should make sense if you realize "transparent" means "no visible difference".
    - jasonbarrah 8y ago
      Transparent has a unique meaning in the context of computing And a different one in design, business and physics. Importantly however; Tech people can claim they are being 'transparent'. To them this can mean no visible difference to the user- and to everyone else means visible/public and available for scrutiny. So yes, I am sure Zuckerberg is focused on 'transparency'.
      - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
        Quite so. A less intentionally disingenuous word for the computing context would be "hidden".
  - Stratoscope 8y ago
    Personally I could care less. There are literally billions of words that sometimes mean their own opposite.
    - nmca 8y ago
      Unclear whether this was an ingenious comment that points out the daft American multi-word expression "I could care less" also means it's own opposite. But, I'ma guess probably not.
      - gdy 8y ago
        You could look at "literally billions" and try guessing one more time.
  - gdy 8y ago
    And the glass on your mobile phone is opaque too? Because it is definitely hidden from you if you cannot see it. But don't despair - all isn't lost! You can fix it with sandpaper, after that you'll be able to see the glass and it will become transparent. Please don't sue me if you don't like the result, however.
  - k__ 8y ago
    I don't understand. Doesn't transparent mean that the interface stays the same and clients can interact with the system in the same way as before without the need to change their code?

Mind elaborating?

by orf 8y ago

Mind elaborating?

nolok 8y ago

I guess he means something like all requests to www.yoursite.com/foo123/BAR proxies to www.soulsucking.com/BAR

munchbunny 8y ago

I'm not the parent poster, but I worked in ad tech. With third party cookie policies getting more stringent, many websites now use either a reverse proxy within the first party domain that points to third party servers, or they use a first party subdomain that points to third party servers. In either case, it allows the servers belonging to the data gatherer to appear as first party, thus getting around third party cookie restrictions. Combine that with browser fingerprinting, and you now have a harder but very viable way to replace the functionality third party cookies previously had.

k__ 8y ago

A company has multiple websites and all of them use a reverse proxy for tracking. (a webserver that is between clients and the real webserver and just "proxies" requests and responses between them, logging all that happens) This is completely transparent from the outside.

greenshackle2 8y ago
This is rather offtopic but it bothers me how most people in IT seem to use 'transparent' to mean 'opaque'. When I hear PMs say "this change will be completely transparent to clients" what they mean is, the client will see no difference, which means really, the details are hidden in a black - opaque - box.
- mehrdadn 8y ago
  It should make sense if you realize "transparent" means "no visible difference".
  - jasonbarrah 8y ago
    Transparent has a unique meaning in the context of computing And a different one in design, business and physics. Importantly however; Tech people can claim they are being 'transparent'. To them this can mean no visible difference to the user- and to everyone else means visible/public and available for scrutiny. So yes, I am sure Zuckerberg is focused on 'transparency'.
    - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
      Quite so. A less intentionally disingenuous word for the computing context would be "hidden".
- Stratoscope 8y ago
  Personally I could care less. There are literally billions of words that sometimes mean their own opposite.
  - nmca 8y ago
    Unclear whether this was an ingenious comment that points out the daft American multi-word expression "I could care less" also means it's own opposite. But, I'ma guess probably not.
    - gdy 8y ago
      You could look at "literally billions" and try guessing one more time.
- gdy 8y ago
  And the glass on your mobile phone is opaque too? Because it is definitely hidden from you if you cannot see it. But don't despair - all isn't lost! You can fix it with sandpaper, after that you'll be able to see the glass and it will become transparent. Please don't sue me if you don't like the result, however.
- k__ 8y ago
  I don't understand. Doesn't transparent mean that the interface stays the same and clients can interact with the system in the same way as before without the need to change their code?