Yep, that's true. I was missing some finer details. There is stderr, which usually is the same as stdout (terminal), and you can run shells in noninteractive mo

Yep, that's true. I was missing some finer details. There is stderr, which usually is the same as stdout (terminal), and you can run shells in noninteractive mode (they will detect when they are not connected to a terminal). In this case there is no prompt and no job control.