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Man I hate that too. We throw parties to celebrate the company's financials if they're above target, but we don't get pay raises for it. Yet when the company is

Man I hate that too. We throw parties to celebrate the company's financials if they're above target, but we don't get pay raises for it. Yet when the company is still profitable but misses revenue targets by 0.5%, we get told no pay raises because we missed targets and you're just lucky you're not getting laid off because we only made $9.95b in profits, not the $10b we wanted.

ajeet_dhaliwal 8y ago
The weirdest thing about these parties is some of the gormless employees love them.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  I mean, it's at least free cake. And an hour or so where you don't have to do work.
nojvek 8y ago
Supply and Demand. If you don’t like it, make some noise and leave to a place where you do get equity. If you think you are truly worth that money, then build your own business. AAGMF has becoming a massive juggernaut taking in insane amount of talent and sometimes directing them towards mundane causes. Quitting is always an option.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  No. This is horribly, horribly naive. Not everyone is in the position where they can just up and quit like that. Does that mean those people should get fucked over?
  - goobynight 8y ago
    Should? Hard to answer and not too practically relevant. It is certainly why they are getting screwed though. People should aggressively save, so they are treated properly. People also sometimes willingly make themselves exploitable, through their own fault, by adding tons of debt and liabilities (children, houses, vehicles) into the equation. One would be a fool to think people aren't looking at those to assess your risk tolerance
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      "Should? Hard to answer and not too practically relevant." Considering that's kinda what you're arguing for when you say that they should just quit, yes, I would consider it relevant. "People also sometimes willingly make themselves exploitable, through their own fault, by adding tons of debt and liabilities (children, houses, vehicles) into the equation. One would be a fool to think people aren't looking at those to assess your risk tolerance" No. The fault for exploitation is ALWAYS entirely on those doing the exploiting. Always. They are the ones actively choosing to fuck people over.
  - aeternus 8y ago
    Those people should not get fucked over but they should also not be compensated for taking risk.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  "Quitting is always an option" I always said that until the 2003 downturn. Things can change very quickly.
ryandrake 8y ago
I love those company parties. They're so...awkward! The big shots up on stage with microphones yelling "OUR STOCK PRICE IS UP 150% THIS YEAR! WOOOOOOOOO!!! PARTY ON!" And the rest of the employees standing around shrugging or pretending to be excited as they at least get some free food.

ajeet_dhaliwal 8y ago

The weirdest thing about these parties is some of the gormless employees love them.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
I mean, it's at least free cake. And an hour or so where you don't have to do work.

nojvek 8y ago

Supply and Demand. If you don’t like it, make some noise and leave to a place where you do get equity. If you think you are truly worth that money, then build your own business. AAGMF has becoming a massive juggernaut taking in insane amount of talent and sometimes directing them towards mundane causes. Quitting is always an option.

s73v3r_ 8y ago
No. This is horribly, horribly naive. Not everyone is in the position where they can just up and quit like that. Does that mean those people should get fucked over?
- goobynight 8y ago
  Should? Hard to answer and not too practically relevant. It is certainly why they are getting screwed though. People should aggressively save, so they are treated properly. People also sometimes willingly make themselves exploitable, through their own fault, by adding tons of debt and liabilities (children, houses, vehicles) into the equation. One would be a fool to think people aren't looking at those to assess your risk tolerance
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    "Should? Hard to answer and not too practically relevant." Considering that's kinda what you're arguing for when you say that they should just quit, yes, I would consider it relevant. "People also sometimes willingly make themselves exploitable, through their own fault, by adding tons of debt and liabilities (children, houses, vehicles) into the equation. One would be a fool to think people aren't looking at those to assess your risk tolerance" No. The fault for exploitation is ALWAYS entirely on those doing the exploiting. Always. They are the ones actively choosing to fuck people over.
- aeternus 8y ago
  Those people should not get fucked over but they should also not be compensated for taking risk.
maxxxxx 8y ago
"Quitting is always an option" I always said that until the 2003 downturn. Things can change very quickly.

ryandrake 8y ago

I love those company parties. They're so...awkward! The big shots up on stage with microphones yelling "OUR STOCK PRICE IS UP 150% THIS YEAR! WOOOOOOOOO!!! PARTY ON!" And the rest of the employees standing around shrugging or pretending to be excited as they at least get some free food.