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> “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” That quote from Jefferson, and ma
by bluejekyll 8y ago
> “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
That quote from Jefferson, and many others of his, I always find very strange. Jefferson was a slave owner. It would appear that he desired an end to slavery but was incapable of doing it himself, which of course is disappointing.
This wiki entry appears to make the case that Jefferson’s own debt prevented him from freeing his slaves, because he still saw them as property on a balance sheet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson_and_slavery https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson_and_slavery
In the end all of his slaves (minus the few known children of his and Sally Hemmings and others of her family) were sold to pay off his estate’s debts, most likely breaking up families in the process.
In some ways Jefferson possibly hoped for a rebellion to overthrow the status quo in the South, and free all the slaves. Ironically though it wasn’t the slaves that rebelled and brought about that change, it was the Southern white confederates who felt they needed to protect their right to own slaves, and throw off the oppressive North (like western mass vs. Boston). They rebelled, and then Slavery was made illegal...
Although we all know that the rights of those former slaves have never truly be equalized across the entire US.
The point is, I always find Jefferson to be an interesting character, because he clearly understood the plight of those who were oppressed, but he lacked the conviction to overthrow his own life comforts to correct the greatest injustice of the founding of the US.
- Fnoord 8y agoYou don't have to be morally perfect to be against something. Example: you can be both a Facebook user as well as against Facebook. Another example: you can be against doping in the Tour de France whilst being a doping user. Hypocrisy is found everywhere. The fact he was a slave owner also doesn't give me an indication about "severity". In these examples, it is hard to go against the status quo.
- lainga 8y agoI wonder how many people saying that Jefferson's actions were inexcusable also hold that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
- Leary 8y agoDo you think Jefferson thought of his slaves as patriots?
- bluejekyll 8y agoI think he was conflicted about their plight. My guess is he didn’t see them as Americans (Patriots, sure) and was in favor of a send them back (Liberia) policy. I’m not a historian though, so my thoughts on this are fairly meaningless.