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We are too stressed in the US. Our companies don't treat employees like people, treat them like automotas. No paternity leave, very very little maternity leav

We are too stressed in the US. Our companies don't treat employees like people, treat them like automotas. No paternity leave, very very little maternity leave. 2 weeks vacation. We are working too hard and burning our selves out.

dominotw 8y ago
> we are working too hard and burning our selves out. Are we? Every single medium-big sized company I've worked was overstaffed to the gills, you could fire about 40-60% of ppl and no one would notice. If you work for any online ecommerce company you would notice that their main shopping time is during work hours.
- sunshinelackof 8y ago
  Ironically it's more stressful for someone to do less work and put on a farce. He's always worried he'll be called out and have nothing to show for it.
- cryoshon 8y ago
  i agree regarding the widespread overstaffing and the ubiquitous e-loafing, but the issue is more complicated than that. it's possible to not do very much work at work but still suffer from the bad lifestyle factors: sitting all day, being constantly stressed regarding stability, being constantly reminded of your social status (or lack thereof), not having enough time after work to do errands or take care of children, not having enough unbroken chunks of vacation time without having to answer an email or do any work, not getting paid enough to comfortably cover all the bills, being reminded of how hard it will be to make ends meet if you get seriously ill, etc. even if these excess employees were actually doing necessary work all of the time, these problems wouldn't go away. they might even get worse.
- pjc50 8y ago
  Not necessarily a contradiction; many of those people will be diligently producing the appearance of work, which is most simply measured by long hours.
cryoshon 8y ago
agreed. it turns out that when people are treated like capital, they depreciate, much like other forms of capital.
- saltcured 8y ago
  Ah, but if you put enough together, they start making more on their own!

dominotw 8y ago

> we are working too hard and burning our selves out. Are we? Every single medium-big sized company I've worked was overstaffed to the gills, you could fire about 40-60% of ppl and no one would notice. If you work for any online ecommerce company you would notice that their main shopping time is during work hours.

sunshinelackof 8y ago
Ironically it's more stressful for someone to do less work and put on a farce. He's always worried he'll be called out and have nothing to show for it.
cryoshon 8y ago
i agree regarding the widespread overstaffing and the ubiquitous e-loafing, but the issue is more complicated than that. it's possible to not do very much work at work but still suffer from the bad lifestyle factors: sitting all day, being constantly stressed regarding stability, being constantly reminded of your social status (or lack thereof), not having enough time after work to do errands or take care of children, not having enough unbroken chunks of vacation time without having to answer an email or do any work, not getting paid enough to comfortably cover all the bills, being reminded of how hard it will be to make ends meet if you get seriously ill, etc. even if these excess employees were actually doing necessary work all of the time, these problems wouldn't go away. they might even get worse.
pjc50 8y ago
Not necessarily a contradiction; many of those people will be diligently producing the appearance of work, which is most simply measured by long hours.

cryoshon 8y ago

agreed. it turns out that when people are treated like capital, they depreciate, much like other forms of capital.

saltcured 8y ago
Ah, but if you put enough together, they start making more on their own!