> China's actions are limited to China They're not, see the comment by ardy42. > There is hardly any activism against the invasive surveillance of SV companie

> China's actions are limited to China They're not, see the comment by ardy42. > There is hardly any activism against the invasive surveillance of SV companies or protests against the NSA There are plenty of encryption projects around here, and I would not describe the HN crowd as pro-NSA or even pro-Facebook. Keeping Google insulated from the influence of the Chinese market seems at least somewhat realistic as an activism goal. Separating Google from the US gov't is simply impossible. (EU citizen here, if that makes a difference.)