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It’s funny how the HN crowd’s infatuation with nuclear persists, long after economics alone, ignoring outright any safety arguments, have rendered the technolog

It’s funny how the HN crowd’s infatuation with nuclear persists, long after economics alone, ignoring outright any safety arguments, have rendered the technology obsolete. It was the environmental crowd you hate, by the way, plus the often maligned political class, who long ago had the foresight to push for the policies that are now enabling renewables to be competitive with fossil fuels. It’s quite embarrassing for tec people, at least the slice of the community I observe. Just let it go.

jabl 8y ago
> It’s funny how the HN crowd’s infatuation with nuclear persists Perhaps that a generally technically literate crowd sees nuclear, given the alternatives, in a positive light tells something.. :) > long after economics alone, Nuclear is under severe economic pressure mainly in the USA, but largely due to dirt cheap natural gas, not renewables. So if you're hoping for even more usage of fossil fuels, go ahead, keep hoping for nuclear to die out. > ignoring outright any safety arguments As we should. In terms of deaths/kWh, nuclear is about the safest energy source we have. > It was the environmental crowd you hate, by the way, plus the often maligned political class, who long ago had the foresight to push for the policies that are now enabling renewables to be competitive with fossil fuels. I'm a fan of renewables (to a point and where appropriate!), but lets use them to replace fossil fuels and not nuclear like Germany, m'kay? I count myself as an environmentalist, and I think the environmental movement has done a lot of good things. But the mainstream environmentalist campaigning against nuclear (and GMO's), is just horribly, disastrously dumb.
nickik 8y ago
Do you have any data to back up your drivel? Because any study of nuclear security ever done by anybody will show that nuclear is the safest form of energy. > It was the environmental crowd you hate, by the way, plus the often maligned political class, who long ago had the foresight to push for the policies that are now enabling renewables to be competitive with fossil fuels. Statements like this, make my literally want to shoot myself. If you only read history like a 3 year old to confirm your bias then what you said is reasonable. It is the absolute idiocy of the environmentalist and the liberals that stopped any form of new advanced nuclear technology. The same president who spent some money on making solar better also slashed research into the most promising nuclear technologies. You do realize that solar and wind are not even close to the task they set out to accomplished and we are widely missing every target? That the whole third world couldn't give a shit about solar and COAL is the massively growing globally. That is the legacy of these polices, failure and mass death. Ironically because coal contains so much nuclear material its actually more radioactive then a nuclear plant itself. In fact a coal plant would not even be allowed to exists if it had to meet the same standards as a nuclear plant. If not for the anti-humans and their political cronies we would have had highly advanced nuclear technology far, far earlier. We might not even know what climate change because it is so irrelevant. But thank god for those smart liberal presidents who helped us make 5% improvement on the solar panel.

jabl 8y ago

> It’s funny how the HN crowd’s infatuation with nuclear persists Perhaps that a generally technically literate crowd sees nuclear, given the alternatives, in a positive light tells something.. :) > long after economics alone, Nuclear is under severe economic pressure mainly in the USA, but largely due to dirt cheap natural gas, not renewables. So if you're hoping for even more usage of fossil fuels, go ahead, keep hoping for nuclear to die out. > ignoring outright any safety arguments As we should. In terms of deaths/kWh, nuclear is about the safest energy source we have. > It was the environmental crowd you hate, by the way, plus the often maligned political class, who long ago had the foresight to push for the policies that are now enabling renewables to be competitive with fossil fuels. I'm a fan of renewables (to a point and where appropriate!), but lets use them to replace fossil fuels and not nuclear like Germany, m'kay? I count myself as an environmentalist, and I think the environmental movement has done a lot of good things. But the mainstream environmentalist campaigning against nuclear (and GMO's), is just horribly, disastrously dumb.

nickik 8y ago

Do you have any data to back up your drivel? Because any study of nuclear security ever done by anybody will show that nuclear is the safest form of energy. > It was the environmental crowd you hate, by the way, plus the often maligned political class, who long ago had the foresight to push for the policies that are now enabling renewables to be competitive with fossil fuels. Statements like this, make my literally want to shoot myself. If you only read history like a 3 year old to confirm your bias then what you said is reasonable. It is the absolute idiocy of the environmentalist and the liberals that stopped any form of new advanced nuclear technology. The same president who spent some money on making solar better also slashed research into the most promising nuclear technologies. You do realize that solar and wind are not even close to the task they set out to accomplished and we are widely missing every target? That the whole third world couldn't give a shit about solar and COAL is the massively growing globally. That is the legacy of these polices, failure and mass death. Ironically because coal contains so much nuclear material its actually more radioactive then a nuclear plant itself. In fact a coal plant would not even be allowed to exists if it had to meet the same standards as a nuclear plant. If not for the anti-humans and their political cronies we would have had highly advanced nuclear technology far, far earlier. We might not even know what climate change because it is so irrelevant. But thank god for those smart liberal presidents who helped us make 5% improvement on the solar panel.