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Vivaldi Co-Founder: Competing with Google Isn’t Scary When You’ve Done It Before

22 points by jonmccull 8y ago

s5ma6n 8y ago
I have used Opera many years and observed all the innovative features they introduced which later 'borrowed' by other browsers. That's not a bad thing though, they have a lot of good ideas and they get standardized after a while. I was very disappointed when they chose chromium backend which contributed to this Google monopoly. I am also using Vivaldi now and happy with it since they still have a similar utilitarian mindset and also the design is pretty. So if you looking for a change, just try it.
- romwell 8y ago
  I still use Opera 12 as my primary mail client on the desktop. My gripes with Vivaldi: still a Chromium-based browser (like the new Opera), and still no e-mail client. Compare this to previous iterations of Opera (pre-12), which featured a custom, fast rendering engine, and built-in features ranging from mail client, IRC client, and torrent client to a web server and a file-sharing platform![1] Sadly, Vivaldi is still a shadow of what Opera used to be. I'm still hopeful, but they simply don't have an attractive product yet. I'll think again when the mail client is there, it was a killer feature. I've switched to FF Quantum, and not switching to anything else any time soon. For me, the killer feature is the new fast engine -- and the reader view, which is the only way I can tolerate about half the websites out there. With reader view and integrations such as Pocket and full-page screenshot directly from the UI, Firefox seems to be the only browser innovating on UX-out-of-the-box these days. (Edge had introduced some neat things, and I tried it for a while, but it just falls short for me). Meanwhile, Chrome is turning into an interesting OS that just needs a good web browser. [1]https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3468/turn-your-computer-into-a-file-music-and-web-server-with-opera-unite/ https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3468/turn-your-computer-into...
  - Paianni 8y ago
    Seamonkey (formerly Mozilla Application Suite) has a built-in mail client, though they are struggling to survive Firefox's overhaul.
  - some_account 8y ago
    I love Firefox for the same reasons, along with really nice privacy plug-ins (cookie bro is a super nice plug in for blacklisting all cookies and only whitelisting sites you actually log in to). The web works fine 99.9% of the time with no cookies enabled at all.
akkadak 8y ago
He is Icelandic

22 points by jonmccull 8y ago

I have used Opera many years and observed all the innovative features they introduced which later 'borrowed' by other browsers. That's not a bad thing though, they have a lot of good ideas and they get standardized after a while. I was very disappointed when they chose chromium backend which contributed to this Google monopoly. I am also using Vivaldi now and happy with it since they still have a similar utilitarian mindset and also the design is pretty. So if you looking for a change, just try it.

romwell 8y ago
I still use Opera 12 as my primary mail client on the desktop. My gripes with Vivaldi: still a Chromium-based browser (like the new Opera), and still no e-mail client. Compare this to previous iterations of Opera (pre-12), which featured a custom, fast rendering engine, and built-in features ranging from mail client, IRC client, and torrent client to a web server and a file-sharing platform![1] Sadly, Vivaldi is still a shadow of what Opera used to be. I'm still hopeful, but they simply don't have an attractive product yet. I'll think again when the mail client is there, it was a killer feature. I've switched to FF Quantum, and not switching to anything else any time soon. For me, the killer feature is the new fast engine -- and the reader view, which is the only way I can tolerate about half the websites out there. With reader view and integrations such as Pocket and full-page screenshot directly from the UI, Firefox seems to be the only browser innovating on UX-out-of-the-box these days. (Edge had introduced some neat things, and I tried it for a while, but it just falls short for me). Meanwhile, Chrome is turning into an interesting OS that just needs a good web browser. [1]https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3468/turn-your-computer-into-a-file-music-and-web-server-with-opera-unite/ https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3468/turn-your-computer-into...
- Paianni 8y ago
  Seamonkey (formerly Mozilla Application Suite) has a built-in mail client, though they are struggling to survive Firefox's overhaul.
- some_account 8y ago
  I love Firefox for the same reasons, along with really nice privacy plug-ins (cookie bro is a super nice plug in for blacklisting all cookies and only whitelisting sites you actually log in to). The web works fine 99.9% of the time with no cookies enabled at all.

akkadak 8y ago

He is Icelandic