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10k is extremely affordable at an elite CS school worldwide. No offense to wherever you went, but Georgia Tech is almost assuredly higher rated for US private s

10k is extremely affordable at an elite CS school worldwide. No offense to wherever you went, but Georgia Tech is almost assuredly higher rated for US private sector by quite a bit. This even applies if you went to TU Delft based on your bio. Worldwide it holds less prestige but in the USA for the major companies, GT is very highly regarded and the students are heavily recruited.

mmirate 8y ago
lol no. Job market for GT BSCS grads is the same bollocks as most anywhere else. I say, save your money and go someplace else (or self-teach) and then use a recruiter that knows wtf they're doing; that's what will make the difference.
- hacym 8y ago
  It sounds like you just have no regard for a formal education -- which is fine. However, for many, it's still a great indicator that you have had at least some training on the fundamentals of your practice area. The job market for GT grads is the same as everyone else, yes, because it's unlikely a job is going to magically open just for a GT grad. However, I guarantee saying you hold a GT BSCS catches the eye of recruiters more than a certificate from Udemy or no education but some experience.
  - mmirate 8y ago
    I spoke and speak from personal experience; and I'm not going to copy-paste my HN profile. I do in fact hold rigorous formal education in high regard. But I doubt that more than about 70% of GA Tech BSCS holders have actually received such a thing; and a result from a 70/30 binary distribution is not a very informative piece of evidence. I don't doubt that a Udemy cert alone is as close to bubkes as you claim. I do doubt that an Anytown State University degree is in the same bucket as Udemy certs, rather than the same bucket as a BSCS from GA Tech. I have also seen recruiters that can very easily convert autodidacts' and Udemy grads' raw experience and competence into employer signals.
lucb1e 8y ago
I think this 31337 school thing is also USA-specific and not as important in the rest of the world. When I interned at Deloitte (here in the Netherlands), there were a lot of employees from two particular IT security studies. There was teasing and slight rivalry back and forth of course, but it definitely wasn't that one camp got paid more or was hired more easily than the other. In fact, if you were to ask, most people would tell you that any vaguely relevant master's would do (and get paid similarly) since the company has to teach you the specifics anyway. Now I've noticed that's not entirely true, they will definitely frown upon a network engineering graduate applying for a security job, but you'll still get the job if you can convey your interest in the field.

mmirate 8y ago

lol no. Job market for GT BSCS grads is the same bollocks as most anywhere else. I say, save your money and go someplace else (or self-teach) and then use a recruiter that knows wtf they're doing; that's what will make the difference.

hacym 8y ago
It sounds like you just have no regard for a formal education -- which is fine. However, for many, it's still a great indicator that you have had at least some training on the fundamentals of your practice area. The job market for GT grads is the same as everyone else, yes, because it's unlikely a job is going to magically open just for a GT grad. However, I guarantee saying you hold a GT BSCS catches the eye of recruiters more than a certificate from Udemy or no education but some experience.
- mmirate 8y ago
  I spoke and speak from personal experience; and I'm not going to copy-paste my HN profile. I do in fact hold rigorous formal education in high regard. But I doubt that more than about 70% of GA Tech BSCS holders have actually received such a thing; and a result from a 70/30 binary distribution is not a very informative piece of evidence. I don't doubt that a Udemy cert alone is as close to bubkes as you claim. I do doubt that an Anytown State University degree is in the same bucket as Udemy certs, rather than the same bucket as a BSCS from GA Tech. I have also seen recruiters that can very easily convert autodidacts' and Udemy grads' raw experience and competence into employer signals.

lucb1e 8y ago

I think this 31337 school thing is also USA-specific and not as important in the rest of the world. When I interned at Deloitte (here in the Netherlands), there were a lot of employees from two particular IT security studies. There was teasing and slight rivalry back and forth of course, but it definitely wasn't that one camp got paid more or was hired more easily than the other. In fact, if you were to ask, most people would tell you that any vaguely relevant master's would do (and get paid similarly) since the company has to teach you the specifics anyway. Now I've noticed that's not entirely true, they will definitely frown upon a network engineering graduate applying for a security job, but you'll still get the job if you can convey your interest in the field.