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Passing legislation now is not the reason she is proposing this. By the time the Democrats have the votes to even make passing this a possibility, it will no l

by bmm6o 8y ago

Passing legislation now is not the reason she is proposing this. By the time the Democrats have the votes to even make passing this a possibility, it will no longer be a new idea and won't seem to radical.

jbob2000 8y ago
That’s a huge list of assumptions. I’m really surprised I’m getting downvotes for this. The bill she proposes simultaneously pisses off big business and the right wing. There is absolutely no way this legislation is getting through, it’s just pandering for the media.
- bryanlarsen 8y ago
  This is essentially a discussion piece / proposal for the 2020 Democratic election platform.
- bmm6o 8y ago
  I'm not sure what "huge list of assumptions" you are referring to, merely the idea that she knows this can't pass today? I think putting these ideas out there in concrete form is a fine approach. If she wanted to "pander to the media" she could have just come up with a slogan with nothing behind it. An actual proposal that can be debated is the opposite of pandering to the media. "Repeal and Replace" as the entirety of your proposal is pandering to the media.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> Passing legislation now is not the reason she is proposing this Now, sure. After the midterms... Maybe a different story (at least in terms of getting it to President's desk), depending on how they turn out. Sure, not all of it will survive the process, but if the only substantive restriction that accompanied the charter was the political spending rule, Democrats would love to put Trump in the position where he'd have to either sign or veto that.
- cannonedhamster 8y ago
  Trump voters have not shown that there is a line that they will not accept from the President. As long as he does it, he gains approval, regardless of any real outcomes. I think people expecting a blue wave are in for a rough shock when actual election results come in. Trump voters are loyal, and more importantly, show up to vote instead of just talking about how they wish they could change something.

by bmm6o 8y ago

jbob2000 8y ago

That’s a huge list of assumptions. I’m really surprised I’m getting downvotes for this. The bill she proposes simultaneously pisses off big business and the right wing. There is absolutely no way this legislation is getting through, it’s just pandering for the media.

bryanlarsen 8y ago
This is essentially a discussion piece / proposal for the 2020 Democratic election platform.
bmm6o 8y ago
I'm not sure what "huge list of assumptions" you are referring to, merely the idea that she knows this can't pass today? I think putting these ideas out there in concrete form is a fine approach. If she wanted to "pander to the media" she could have just come up with a slogan with nothing behind it. An actual proposal that can be debated is the opposite of pandering to the media. "Repeal and Replace" as the entirety of your proposal is pandering to the media.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> Passing legislation now is not the reason she is proposing this Now, sure. After the midterms... Maybe a different story (at least in terms of getting it to President's desk), depending on how they turn out. Sure, not all of it will survive the process, but if the only substantive restriction that accompanied the charter was the political spending rule, Democrats would love to put Trump in the position where he'd have to either sign or veto that.

cannonedhamster 8y ago
Trump voters have not shown that there is a line that they will not accept from the President. As long as he does it, he gains approval, regardless of any real outcomes. I think people expecting a blue wave are in for a rough shock when actual election results come in. Trump voters are loyal, and more importantly, show up to vote instead of just talking about how they wish they could change something.