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You seem to be unaware of the multitude of areas where there is no affordable housing for all sorts of local reasons. I've been homeless before. When your inc

You seem to be unaware of the multitude of areas where there is no affordable housing for all sorts of local reasons. I've been homeless before. When your income can't make basic rent+utilities+everything else, there's no good alternative. Either you're squatting in illegal conditions, truly homeless and migrant, or somehow be the 1% that get a complete change of life circumstances and get more money coming in. I enlisted based off by prior job history. Not everybody can do something that drastic. And no, not more efficient. Simpler, maybe, cause no toys or excess possessions, but everything costs more until you can afford to stock up on basics, and get transportation cheaper then buses and taxis, etc etc etc. All around, a hard problem, stepping up out of that economics into even "I have a few bucks in my pocket left over" economics.

darawk 8y ago
I'm aware that some areas have very little to no affordable housing. But i'm also aware that if you move to a city 30 miles or so outside of those areas, housing gets affordable again. Can't afford SF? Go to Fresno. There's jobs, housing, and bus tickets are less than $20. I'm totally willing and interested to listen to arguments that this sort of poverty is a real trap and in some cases i'm sure that it is. But in the argument you make, you yourself saw an exit route (enlistment) and you took it. That sort of resourcefulness is exactly what seems to be missing from most of the arguments that I see about people being trapped.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > I'm aware that some areas have very little to no affordable housing. But i'm also aware that if you move to a city 30 miles or so outside of those areas, housing gets affordable again. Can't afford SF? Go to Fresno. That's...a lot more than 30 miles.
  - darawk 8y ago
    You're absolutely correct. Is there some sense in which that matters?

darawk 8y ago

I'm aware that some areas have very little to no affordable housing. But i'm also aware that if you move to a city 30 miles or so outside of those areas, housing gets affordable again. Can't afford SF? Go to Fresno. There's jobs, housing, and bus tickets are less than $20. I'm totally willing and interested to listen to arguments that this sort of poverty is a real trap and in some cases i'm sure that it is. But in the argument you make, you yourself saw an exit route (enlistment) and you took it. That sort of resourcefulness is exactly what seems to be missing from most of the arguments that I see about people being trapped.

dragonwriter 8y ago
> I'm aware that some areas have very little to no affordable housing. But i'm also aware that if you move to a city 30 miles or so outside of those areas, housing gets affordable again. Can't afford SF? Go to Fresno. That's...a lot more than 30 miles.
- darawk 8y ago
  You're absolutely correct. Is there some sense in which that matters?