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...how about free public toilets, which will solve the actual problem? I get the impression that you misunderstood the parent. Installing toilets would solve
by hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
...how about free public toilets, which will solve the actual problem?
I get the impression that you misunderstood the parent. Installing toilets would solve the problem without being sexist. The plan of installing urinals does seem rather sexist, doesn't it?
I mean, it appears to be saying, "oh well, boys can't hold it" or "women don't (or can't) drink". Aren't those sexist statements?
It sure sounds to me like it's reinforcing a weird culture of men not doing any planning and feeling entitled to piss wherever it's convenient for them.
- mrcsparker 8y agoIt seems like a quick fix to get halfway to where they want to be. Now they need to solve for the other half
- phyzome 8y agoPublic urination has several causes: 1) People not caring enough not to; 2) People can't find a public restroom and they have to pee; 3) People can't afford to use the available restrooms. The first of those could possibly be handled with threats and punishment; the other two would only be minimally affected by that. Yes, it's sexist to only provide facilities for men—whatever the argument. I don't disagree! But corporal punishment for urination, as rayiner was suggesting, without providing free public toilets... that's just cruel.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y agoBut corporal punishment for urination, as rayiner was suggesting, without providing free public toilets... that's just cruel. I don't think the problem is caused by vast numbers if underprivileged homeless people. It sounds like it's caused by irresponsible, indifferent young men. There doesn't appear to be a widespread problem of women urinating in the streets. It's perfectly valid to conclude that the problem is a lack of punishment and shaming of the unwanted behavior.
- phyzome 8y agoSo, let's say your new "Whip the Pissers Act" gets signed into law. Congratulations, there are now public floggings of irresponsible, indifferent young men, and many of them do change their ways. But there are also public floggings of the homeless. Awesome. Or does your law somehow codify "indifferent and irresponsible" as a condition of the crime?
- rayiner 8y agoJust like with any other crime, the prosecution or sentencing authority could take account of mitigating circumstances. We don’t get rid of laws against speeding because sometimes people are rushing to the hospital.
- phyzome 8y agoI don't trust prosecutorial discretion to protect me from overly broad laws.