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Someone working in a company that skirts OSHA requirements for short term profit gains has a lot more skin in the game than investors in my opinion. > Utopian
by 49531 8y ago
Someone working in a company that skirts OSHA requirements for short term profit gains has a lot more skin in the game than investors in my opinion.
> Utopian projects that amount to taking stuff from property owners and giving it to ideologues never work. They usually end up generating nothing but heaps of bodies.
Giving property owners unfettered rights to seek profit over everything else tends to end up generating nothing but heaps of bodies (oh, and a bunch of wealth for a few individuals). So I guess in that case it's worth it?
I don't think workers organizing to make the place they work safer and better long term is "stupid ideological and status signaling games". Adding worker elected board members isn't a new idea either, it's been done with some success.
- quotemstr 8y agoIf a company is violating OSHA, report the violation. If OSHA isn't strong enough, get it fixed. If you want a company not to do something, pass a law that prohibits that thing. The law is wonderful. In theory, lawmaking happens in the open, according to well-known rules, and everyone gets a say. It's not perfect, but nothing is. What internal corporate activists want is the power beyond the law. They want to make stuff up whenever it suits them, behind closed doors, and without accountability to the public. And they want this power because they want to compel companies to do things that are deeply unpopular, things that would never make it through the lawmaking process. These people are using the language of democracy to undermine democracy.
- kerbalspacepro 8y agoYou can't say, "Use this idealized theory of getting things done that isn't real" and then say "because I'm worried about this demonized theory of getting things don't that hasn't actually happened".