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I will let you in with a little secret that 99% of the public is not aware of or refuse to believe. Every guest room in every hotel is equipped with extremely s

I will let you in with a little secret that 99% of the public is not aware of or refuse to believe. Every guest room in every hotel is equipped with extremely sophisticated surveillance equipment. Yes, every single room! It is okay if you refuse to believe this because I know it's very difficult to accept. I didn't believe it myself until I saw everything in front of my own eyes. Just keep this thought in the back of your head as a possibility, one day you'll see the truth comes out.

rhn_mk1 8y ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please back it up with something.
- m0rphy99 8y ago
  You will never see proof because even if someone has it, they can never publish it for legal reasons, hotels are private properties and they are owned by giant MNCs. That's why I said everyone is free to believe what they want, but just keep the thought at the back of your head as a possibility because I used to be in that position until I witnessed it for myself.
  - theandrewbailey 8y ago
    > You will never see proof because even if someone has it, they can never publish it for legal reasons Since when are guests required to sign surveillance equipment NDAs to get a hotel room?
mywittyname 8y ago
What do you mean by, 'extremely sophisticated surveillance equipment'? Are we talking about smoke detectors, meters for water/electricity usage, or do you mean things like audio/video capture of your activities throughout the room? I definitely expect there to be equipment to determine if you've been smoking in your room (how else would they know) or doing something to destroy the room. Who has access to this sort of thing? I imagine there'd be leaks if the regular security guards had access to this, so I'm guessing it must go to some LEO HQ.
- EADGBE 8y ago
  > equipment to determine if you've been smoking in your room (how else would they know) One's nose also works for this.
- m0rphy99 8y ago
  I meant video/audio surveillance equipment. My comments are getting a lot of downvotes and I fully expected it. Before Snowden revealed what he had to say, imagine if you had mentioned exactly the same things he said, surely people would have labeled you as crazy.
  - mywittyname 8y ago
    You never answered the question about who is watching/listening to these feeds?
    - bradknowles 8y ago
      IMO, it's a Vashta Nerada problem (see <http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Vashta_Nerada> http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Vashta_Nerada>). It's not that every single shadow in existence contains a Vashta Nerada, it's that any particular shadow in existence COULD contain a Vashta Nerada. Likewise, not every phone on the planet is silently listening to your conversations and recording them for the benefit of the Secret Service (or NSA, or other such organization). The problem is that ANY phone in the hotel COULD be silently recording your conversations. And the probability that any phone might be used for such purposes is definitely non-zero. Many hotel rooms now have Smart TVs installed, and many smart TVs from companies like Vizio and LG come with built-in cameras. Rinse and repeat the above concerns. You don't have to go far beyond the recent problems at DefCon to see what will be happening next.

rhn_mk1 8y ago

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please back it up with something.

m0rphy99 8y ago
You will never see proof because even if someone has it, they can never publish it for legal reasons, hotels are private properties and they are owned by giant MNCs. That's why I said everyone is free to believe what they want, but just keep the thought at the back of your head as a possibility because I used to be in that position until I witnessed it for myself.
- theandrewbailey 8y ago
  > You will never see proof because even if someone has it, they can never publish it for legal reasons Since when are guests required to sign surveillance equipment NDAs to get a hotel room?

mywittyname 8y ago

What do you mean by, 'extremely sophisticated surveillance equipment'? Are we talking about smoke detectors, meters for water/electricity usage, or do you mean things like audio/video capture of your activities throughout the room? I definitely expect there to be equipment to determine if you've been smoking in your room (how else would they know) or doing something to destroy the room. Who has access to this sort of thing? I imagine there'd be leaks if the regular security guards had access to this, so I'm guessing it must go to some LEO HQ.

EADGBE 8y ago
> equipment to determine if you've been smoking in your room (how else would they know) One's nose also works for this.
m0rphy99 8y ago
I meant video/audio surveillance equipment. My comments are getting a lot of downvotes and I fully expected it. Before Snowden revealed what he had to say, imagine if you had mentioned exactly the same things he said, surely people would have labeled you as crazy.
- mywittyname 8y ago
  You never answered the question about who is watching/listening to these feeds?
  - bradknowles 8y ago
    IMO, it's a Vashta Nerada problem (see <http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Vashta_Nerada> http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Vashta_Nerada>). It's not that every single shadow in existence contains a Vashta Nerada, it's that any particular shadow in existence COULD contain a Vashta Nerada. Likewise, not every phone on the planet is silently listening to your conversations and recording them for the benefit of the Secret Service (or NSA, or other such organization). The problem is that ANY phone in the hotel COULD be silently recording your conversations. And the probability that any phone might be used for such purposes is definitely non-zero. Many hotel rooms now have Smart TVs installed, and many smart TVs from companies like Vizio and LG come with built-in cameras. Rinse and repeat the above concerns. You don't have to go far beyond the recent problems at DefCon to see what will be happening next.