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I know a medical doctor who had 14 kids (oh, those catholics). And she still managed to practise medicine when she was not spreading her legs to launch another

I know a medical doctor who had 14 kids (oh, those catholics). And she still managed to practise medicine when she was not spreading her legs to launch another baby in this world. Sounds much more impressive than managing a baseball team, imho. The OP wants the HN crowd to assure him of what a special and unique snowflake his sister is, when she's merely doing something that is the norm in some parts of the world.

gcheong 16y ago
In families with such large numbers of kids, it seems it is often the older kids who at some point start to be charged with looking after the younger ones so, yeah it's "doable" but the parents aren't doing it all.
- ars 16y ago
  It's not just that - the younger kids always have a playmate, so it's not necessary for the parent to do that. You rarely hear "I'm bored" when you have 5 kids in the house all of around the same age.
antileet 16y ago
"Intellectual pursuits are more respectable and rewarding than non-intellectual ones". Personally, I'd say it might be okay to run a little baseball team and make a few dozen people's lives more interesting. Even doing a phd in QFT, as you note, might help some people in the long run. But are you trying to define a heuristic that proposes that one human is better than the other solely due to the field of work? I find this trend rather disturbing. It's almost parallel to the "nerds don't get laid" paradigm. For the record, I'm a physics major. And I'd any-day prefer to be a little-league team manager than troll on comment threads.
- Watermelon 16y ago
  "But are you trying to define a heuristic that proposes that one human is better than the other solely due to the field of work?" No. I am merely stating that having kids is not an accomplishment, it's one's biological programming. One should admire people who do things that are challenging and difficult, like proving hard theorems or sailing around the world solo. It's not about status nor academic pedigree, it's simpler: if everything is admirable, then nothing is. "I'd any-day prefer to be a little-league team manager than troll on comment threads." Just because I am being downvoted, that doesn't make me a troll. But thanks for the remark. Now you can be all happy that you're on the side of the "moral majority". You're a self-righteous sheep. Be proud.
  - antileet 16y ago
    I didn't _disagree_ with what you said. Yes there are certain people who have spent a good amount of their time working towards noble and challenging causes who have my utmost respect. I fully agree with your first point. By saying things like "And who cares about law school or baseball teams", you are belittling a whole set of people. Saying "sailing solo is more admirable than working towards law school" might be accurate, but the way I read it - "law school? You haven't sailed solo around the world, hence your existence is invalidated". As for the troll remark, you're a new user with no real identity making relatively controversial and somewhat personal statements with a relatively disrespectful tone. I'm not too sure what the textbook definition of a troll is, but this is the closest one I've seen over here.
    - Watermelon 16y ago
      The OP was attention-whoring, so he was put in his place. His sister has done nothing admirable, period. This is not trolling, this is circle-jerk prevention. I suggest you guys take a trip to Siberia where you'll find women in their 30s who have two jobs, several kids they raised by themselves (their husbands traded them for hotter 19 year olds by the time the girls were in their late 20s), and who still find the time to take care of their old, frail parents all by themselves. Compared to that... law school, baseball team, six kids... small potatoes. -- PS: anyone who works hard for 3 years can do law school. Sailing around the world solo requires at least 10 years of training. It also requires a unique set of psychological traits, such as the ability to tolerate loneliness and boredom for weeks. Few people sail around the world solo every year, while millions graduate from law school every year. Given that, yes, some things are more admirable than others. When everything is "awesome", nothing is. Call it the "cry wolf effect". Just because something deserves praise, that does not mean it deserves one's admiration.

gcheong 16y ago

In families with such large numbers of kids, it seems it is often the older kids who at some point start to be charged with looking after the younger ones so, yeah it's "doable" but the parents aren't doing it all.

ars 16y ago
It's not just that - the younger kids always have a playmate, so it's not necessary for the parent to do that. You rarely hear "I'm bored" when you have 5 kids in the house all of around the same age.

antileet 16y ago

"Intellectual pursuits are more respectable and rewarding than non-intellectual ones". Personally, I'd say it might be okay to run a little baseball team and make a few dozen people's lives more interesting. Even doing a phd in QFT, as you note, might help some people in the long run. But are you trying to define a heuristic that proposes that one human is better than the other solely due to the field of work? I find this trend rather disturbing. It's almost parallel to the "nerds don't get laid" paradigm. For the record, I'm a physics major. And I'd any-day prefer to be a little-league team manager than troll on comment threads.

Watermelon 16y ago
"But are you trying to define a heuristic that proposes that one human is better than the other solely due to the field of work?" No. I am merely stating that having kids is not an accomplishment, it's one's biological programming. One should admire people who do things that are challenging and difficult, like proving hard theorems or sailing around the world solo. It's not about status nor academic pedigree, it's simpler: if everything is admirable, then nothing is. "I'd any-day prefer to be a little-league team manager than troll on comment threads." Just because I am being downvoted, that doesn't make me a troll. But thanks for the remark. Now you can be all happy that you're on the side of the "moral majority". You're a self-righteous sheep. Be proud.
- antileet 16y ago
  I didn't _disagree_ with what you said. Yes there are certain people who have spent a good amount of their time working towards noble and challenging causes who have my utmost respect. I fully agree with your first point. By saying things like "And who cares about law school or baseball teams", you are belittling a whole set of people. Saying "sailing solo is more admirable than working towards law school" might be accurate, but the way I read it - "law school? You haven't sailed solo around the world, hence your existence is invalidated". As for the troll remark, you're a new user with no real identity making relatively controversial and somewhat personal statements with a relatively disrespectful tone. I'm not too sure what the textbook definition of a troll is, but this is the closest one I've seen over here.
  - Watermelon 16y ago
    The OP was attention-whoring, so he was put in his place. His sister has done nothing admirable, period. This is not trolling, this is circle-jerk prevention. I suggest you guys take a trip to Siberia where you'll find women in their 30s who have two jobs, several kids they raised by themselves (their husbands traded them for hotter 19 year olds by the time the girls were in their late 20s), and who still find the time to take care of their old, frail parents all by themselves. Compared to that... law school, baseball team, six kids... small potatoes. -- PS: anyone who works hard for 3 years can do law school. Sailing around the world solo requires at least 10 years of training. It also requires a unique set of psychological traits, such as the ability to tolerate loneliness and boredom for weeks. Few people sail around the world solo every year, while millions graduate from law school every year. Given that, yes, some things are more admirable than others. When everything is "awesome", nothing is. Call it the "cry wolf effect". Just because something deserves praise, that does not mean it deserves one's admiration.