> That's odd... I meant, for regular usage (with full packages), some people might pride themselves over a 0.1 startup, but then as soon as Emacs does something

> That's odd... I meant, for regular usage (with full packages), some people might pride themselves over a 0.1 startup, but then as soon as Emacs does something useful it will freeze a little. > Opening a file... Maybe my example wasn't clear enough. When I open Emacs a lot of functionality will be 'there', as it happens with an IDE. Think of a project tree, terminal, misc functionality, and unavoidable dependencies. > Doesn't Clojure... The Clojure(Script) tooling stack has many layers from different authors, so it's reasonable to not trust things to work after several connect/disconnect cycles.