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I was at DEFCON. I stayed at Caesars. I had a lot of odd stuff in my room. I had no problems. Security never entered my room, nor did they want to. Why? Becaus

I was at DEFCON. I stayed at Caesars. I had a lot of odd stuff in my room. I had no problems. Security never entered my room, nor did they want to. Why? Because I did the simplest thing. I didn't keep the DND sign on the door so I had normal maid service. I like fresh towels and made beds. If you leave your DND up, security will come to your room once a day and take a quick visual inspection. Yes, we all know this is mostly 'theater'. If you're there alone and are uncomfortable with people in your room when you're alone, then stand outside the room during the inspection. Some people aren't happy unless there's drama. I see many people at DEFCON who imagine they're 007 and a host of three letter agencies are interested in them. Good for them! (I suspect Marc Rogers, the DEFCON security person who resigned, simply didn't want to deal with drama anymore when there are real battles to fight.) For the rest of us, it's a nice convention where we can talk to real engineers and security researchers about problems that affect us.

jstarfish 8y ago
> For the rest of us, it's a nice convention where we can talk to real engineers and security researchers about problems that affect us Good for you. I'm glad you got a chance to talk to real engineers and security researchers about problems that affect you. I hope you feel more secure as a result. There are a number of other attendees who would also like to discuss the security problems that affect them, such as the notion that putting up a DnD sign on your hotel door is an implicit expectation that random men will corner you in your room. If these visitors aren't who they say they are, the only way out is through them. It being a convention of professional hackers, the fact that the only thing between you and an intruder is an electronic lock does not bestow much confidence in one's security. Is it ok with you if we discuss this for a bit? Hopefully it doesn't get in the way of the important engineering and security research weighing on your mind.
- rustcharm 8y ago
  I had the DND sign up when I was in the room. But when I left, I took it down so the room could be cleaned. Nobody other than the cleaning staff came in my room and they did a good job (I have video!) I was not visited by security. I had tools including soldering irons and 2-way radios in my room. If you don't allow the cleaning staff in the room at least once a day, someone from Security will check the room. Don't create drama when it's not needed. Worry about important things.

jstarfish 8y ago

> For the rest of us, it's a nice convention where we can talk to real engineers and security researchers about problems that affect us Good for you. I'm glad you got a chance to talk to real engineers and security researchers about problems that affect you. I hope you feel more secure as a result. There are a number of other attendees who would also like to discuss the security problems that affect them, such as the notion that putting up a DnD sign on your hotel door is an implicit expectation that random men will corner you in your room. If these visitors aren't who they say they are, the only way out is through them. It being a convention of professional hackers, the fact that the only thing between you and an intruder is an electronic lock does not bestow much confidence in one's security. Is it ok with you if we discuss this for a bit? Hopefully it doesn't get in the way of the important engineering and security research weighing on your mind.

rustcharm 8y ago
I had the DND sign up when I was in the room. But when I left, I took it down so the room could be cleaned. Nobody other than the cleaning staff came in my room and they did a good job (I have video!) I was not visited by security. I had tools including soldering irons and 2-way radios in my room. If you don't allow the cleaning staff in the room at least once a day, someone from Security will check the room. Don't create drama when it's not needed. Worry about important things.