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I agree it shouldn't be framed as man vs woman, but see my other comments about the complexities of this. Also, the #metoo movement is pretty dangerous in the

I agree it shouldn't be framed as man vs woman, but see my other comments about the complexities of this. Also, the #metoo movement is pretty dangerous in the sense that prominent people in it are seeking legal frameworks and changes. See my comment about Heidi Matthews's interview and take on me too on the Owls at Dawn podcast. You can't help how you feel. If you fall in love with someone at work or in academia or in some other type of "position of authority," do we now need contracts to ensure the relationship is wanted by both parties? That would be the legal requirement, and .. do you need another contract to break up? Maybe you should give your partner two weeks notice? I feel like there are a lot of deep complexities here and really difficult questions, more than a simple harassment complaint. I think the people ruling on this complaint must have felt the same way. I think back to some of my partners. I can't imagine having all our personal e-mails and notes put on display for a committee to decide the nature of our relationship. What world are we living in?

s73v3r_ 8y ago
"You can't help how you feel. If you fall in love with someone at work or in academia or in some other type of "position of authority," do we now need contracts to ensure the relationship is wanted by both parties?" Sure. Or, just don't date subordinates.
lederhosen 8y ago
I think it is quite easy. If you have a relationship with someone and having a "position of authority", the simple solution is to get rid of the "position of authority", let your lover have another boss. That responsibility is of course on the one with power. I say "the simple solution" as it is the company policy of all companies I have been working for. I _guess_ it is the same for all universities. I can _only_ guess that _maybe_ youngster is under pressure having sex with oldster with position of authority. I need not guess that all these complexities could have been handled easily by assigning another professor to the student. And there is no question who's fault that is. You do not need a contract, but do not fuck people that you have direct power over.

s73v3r_ 8y ago

"You can't help how you feel. If you fall in love with someone at work or in academia or in some other type of "position of authority," do we now need contracts to ensure the relationship is wanted by both parties?" Sure. Or, just don't date subordinates.

lederhosen 8y ago

I think it is quite easy. If you have a relationship with someone and having a "position of authority", the simple solution is to get rid of the "position of authority", let your lover have another boss. That responsibility is of course on the one with power. I say "the simple solution" as it is the company policy of all companies I have been working for. I _guess_ it is the same for all universities. I can _only_ guess that _maybe_ youngster is under pressure having sex with oldster with position of authority. I need not guess that all these complexities could have been handled easily by assigning another professor to the student. And there is no question who's fault that is. You do not need a contract, but do not fuck people that you have direct power over.