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this wont be popular but I always felt like docker was a step backwards in order to regroup and take a giant leap forward. I went from right clicking and deplo

by grezql 8y ago

this wont be popular but I always felt like docker was a step backwards in order to regroup and take a giant leap forward. I went from right clicking and deploying from visual studio to SSH and configuring dockerfiles, docker compose, even nginx.conf to loadbalance. You do get more bang for the buck with such setup but its too much work on infrastructure and less time for development. edit: add kubernetes to it, although AKS and GKE being free lessens the burden its still too much for a software dev like me.

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k__ 8y ago
Well, this is probably to find common ground between FaaS people and DevOps, haha. Being a FaaS proponent, I still think this could be a good idea, because of the kinda standardized workings of Docker. I mean, AWS also uses Docker for local testing.
DelightOne 8y ago
> although AKS and GKE being free I‘m a developer too and I feel the burden too. Can you tell what you mean here?
- grezql 8y ago
  Setting up and maintaining a kubernetes cluster on my own would probably kill me desire to touch a computer again. Azure and Google provides free Kubernetes-cluster-management-as-service. But you are right, its still a hassle.
  - _asummers 8y ago
    Been going through that process the past few days on Scaleway, as they don't have a hosted K8. It's... tough... but I'm learning a lot and have a much deeper understanding of K8s clusters from an operational perspective now. I have a much deeper understanding of the magic happening behind the scenes to keep everything talking to each other, and even if I wind up on a hosted solution in the end, it's been invaluable.
    - grezql 8y ago
      thats what I told myslef too when I invested hours after hours learning Knockout then AngularJS. Only for reactjs to dominate a year after. I skipped learning react and stuck with angular. Now I hear rumours theres a new sheriff in town named Vue.js. Careful with filling your brain with domain-specific knowledge. :)
    - esistgut 8y ago
      There is an early access program for they hosted kubernetes service https://www.scaleway.com/kubernetes/ https://www.scaleway.com/kubernetes/
      - _asummers 8y ago
        Yeah I signed up months ago but haven't gotten an invite yet =(
  - grosjona 8y ago
    Deploying to a Kubernetes cluster is easy. You just have to learn a few key concepts to write your own .yaml definitions. Also, some open source frameworks come with the .yaml definitions already.

by grezql 8y ago

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k__ 8y ago

Well, this is probably to find common ground between FaaS people and DevOps, haha. Being a FaaS proponent, I still think this could be a good idea, because of the kinda standardized workings of Docker. I mean, AWS also uses Docker for local testing.

DelightOne 8y ago

> although AKS and GKE being free I‘m a developer too and I feel the burden too. Can you tell what you mean here?

grezql 8y ago
Setting up and maintaining a kubernetes cluster on my own would probably kill me desire to touch a computer again. Azure and Google provides free Kubernetes-cluster-management-as-service. But you are right, its still a hassle.
- _asummers 8y ago
  Been going through that process the past few days on Scaleway, as they don't have a hosted K8. It's... tough... but I'm learning a lot and have a much deeper understanding of K8s clusters from an operational perspective now. I have a much deeper understanding of the magic happening behind the scenes to keep everything talking to each other, and even if I wind up on a hosted solution in the end, it's been invaluable.
  - grezql 8y ago
    thats what I told myslef too when I invested hours after hours learning Knockout then AngularJS. Only for reactjs to dominate a year after. I skipped learning react and stuck with angular. Now I hear rumours theres a new sheriff in town named Vue.js. Careful with filling your brain with domain-specific knowledge. :)
  - esistgut 8y ago
    There is an early access program for they hosted kubernetes service https://www.scaleway.com/kubernetes/ https://www.scaleway.com/kubernetes/
    - _asummers 8y ago
      Yeah I signed up months ago but haven't gotten an invite yet =(
- grosjona 8y ago
  Deploying to a Kubernetes cluster is easy. You just have to learn a few key concepts to write your own .yaml definitions. Also, some open source frameworks come with the .yaml definitions already.