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It's really curious how free speech for all was a widespread liberal value until they got control over the platforms. Now, it's free speech for me, not for thee

It's really curious how free speech for all was a widespread liberal value until they got control over the platforms. Now, it's free speech for me, not for thee.

krapp 8y ago
> It's really curious how free speech for all was a widespread liberal value until they got control over the platforms. Now, it's free speech for me, not for thee. You're laboring under two misconceptions. First, that free speech is a "liberal" value, and second, that social media platforms are run to promote a "liberal" agenda.
- lylecubed 8y ago
  The first is indisputable. The left pushed free speech as a liberal value for decades (at least) specifically to get rid of blasphemy and obscenity laws. The second: are you suggesting twitter regularly purges right wing figures, including Republican candidates for congress, because twitter is of the political right? And, no, Twitter is not neutral, precisely for the aforementioned reason.
  - krapp 8y ago
    >The first is indisputable. The first is mentioned and protected by the Constitution, and often employed by Republicans and the right to defend and justify their speech and politics, so no. >Are you suggesting twitter regularly purges As soon as you used the word "purge" your bias becomes apparent, so I'm going to find a better use of my time. Good day.
    - lylecubed 8y ago
      There's nothing like seeing 'Year Zero' in practice.
    - LyndsySimon 8y ago
      I'd like to point out that "liberal" and "leftist" are not the same thing. Yes, they're often used interchangeably in contemporary American politics, but the traditional usage remains. Free speech is absolutely a "liberal value" - and for what it's worth, that's coming from an extreme libertarian that is diametrically opposed to most of the Democratic platform.
      - krapp 8y ago
        You are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct, but I don't think the prior commenter was making that distinction, so I stand by my comment in the context that I believe they intended.
        lylecubed 8y ago
        I was, actually. Using English and everything. I clearly make the distinction between left and liberal in this comment: "The left pushed free speech as a liberal value"

It's really curious how free speech for all was a widespread liberal value until they got control over the platforms. Now, it's free speech for me, not for thee.

krapp 8y ago

> It's really curious how free speech for all was a widespread liberal value until they got control over the platforms. Now, it's free speech for me, not for thee. You're laboring under two misconceptions. First, that free speech is a "liberal" value, and second, that social media platforms are run to promote a "liberal" agenda.

lylecubed 8y ago
The first is indisputable. The left pushed free speech as a liberal value for decades (at least) specifically to get rid of blasphemy and obscenity laws. The second: are you suggesting twitter regularly purges right wing figures, including Republican candidates for congress, because twitter is of the political right? And, no, Twitter is not neutral, precisely for the aforementioned reason.
- krapp 8y ago
  >The first is indisputable. The first is mentioned and protected by the Constitution, and often employed by Republicans and the right to defend and justify their speech and politics, so no. >Are you suggesting twitter regularly purges As soon as you used the word "purge" your bias becomes apparent, so I'm going to find a better use of my time. Good day.
  - lylecubed 8y ago
    There's nothing like seeing 'Year Zero' in practice.
  - LyndsySimon 8y ago
    I'd like to point out that "liberal" and "leftist" are not the same thing. Yes, they're often used interchangeably in contemporary American politics, but the traditional usage remains. Free speech is absolutely a "liberal value" - and for what it's worth, that's coming from an extreme libertarian that is diametrically opposed to most of the Democratic platform.
    - krapp 8y ago
      You are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct, but I don't think the prior commenter was making that distinction, so I stand by my comment in the context that I believe they intended.
      - lylecubed 8y ago
        I was, actually. Using English and everything. I clearly make the distinction between left and liberal in this comment: "The left pushed free speech as a liberal value"