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Surely this is at the very least a breah of privacy, and possibly a warrantless search? A hotel room, while occupied by a paying customer, should be treated as

Surely this is at the very least a breah of privacy, and possibly a warrantless search? A hotel room, while occupied by a paying customer, should be treated as private property.

Cthulhu_ 8y ago
Warrantless search only applies if it was the police going in there; if it's hotel security, and if the terms and conditions of said hotel indicate hotel security can enter your room at any given time, then you'll have nothing.
- fbender 8y ago
  Unless you‘re in Europe (or at least Germany) where Hotel staff is only allowed to enter on your invitation, no matter what the ToS say.
  - frockington 8y ago
    It's in America and recently also China
  - blattimwind 8y ago
    > Unless you‘re in Europe (or at least Germany) where Hotel staff is only allowed to enter on your invitation, no matter what the ToS say. Sad how govermenmt regulation swoops down on valid business interests.
    - the_duke 8y ago
      Sad how some governments choose to invalidate a citizens privacy rights for "valid" business interests. A hotel can call the police any time if they suspect an issue with a guest.
- vageli 8y ago
  > Warrantless search only applies if it was the police going in there; if it's hotel security, and if the terms and conditions of said hotel indicate hotel security can enter your room at any given time, then you'll have nothing. I doubt those terms are legal enforceable if they exist. Even apartment building owners in the US can't enter arbitrarily, especially if you're not present.
  - macintux 8y ago
    Leasing an apartment, and it being filled with all of your possessions, is a quite different situation than a short-term rental of a hotel room, and I'd wager the legal system sees them as different.
  - javagram 8y ago
    Tenant’s rights laws control when and how an apartment owner can enter the residence. Those laws don’t really exist for hotels in the USA as far as I know. Hotels are categorized as temporary dwellings and are regulated much differently.
    - vageli 8y ago
      > Is there a right to privacy in my hotel room? Generally, yes, you have a right to expect privacy in your hotel room as long as you are using the hotel room in a normal, responsible way. However, if you are engaging in anything illegal or disturbing other guests, hotel management can enter your room without your permission. [0] The quote's not from a definitive source but there is language like that all over the internet. Merely attending a conference does not a criminal make, so I think the hotel has a thin defense here. [0]: https://consumer.findlaw.com/travel-rules-and-rights/hotel-questions-and-answers.html https://consumer.findlaw.com/travel-rules-and-rights/hotel-q...

Surely this is at the very least a breah of privacy, and possibly a warrantless search? A hotel room, while occupied by a paying customer, should be treated as private property.

Cthulhu_ 8y ago

Warrantless search only applies if it was the police going in there; if it's hotel security, and if the terms and conditions of said hotel indicate hotel security can enter your room at any given time, then you'll have nothing.

fbender 8y ago
Unless you‘re in Europe (or at least Germany) where Hotel staff is only allowed to enter on your invitation, no matter what the ToS say.
- frockington 8y ago
  It's in America and recently also China
- blattimwind 8y ago
  > Unless you‘re in Europe (or at least Germany) where Hotel staff is only allowed to enter on your invitation, no matter what the ToS say. Sad how govermenmt regulation swoops down on valid business interests.
  - the_duke 8y ago
    Sad how some governments choose to invalidate a citizens privacy rights for "valid" business interests. A hotel can call the police any time if they suspect an issue with a guest.
vageli 8y ago
> Warrantless search only applies if it was the police going in there; if it's hotel security, and if the terms and conditions of said hotel indicate hotel security can enter your room at any given time, then you'll have nothing. I doubt those terms are legal enforceable if they exist. Even apartment building owners in the US can't enter arbitrarily, especially if you're not present.
- macintux 8y ago
  Leasing an apartment, and it being filled with all of your possessions, is a quite different situation than a short-term rental of a hotel room, and I'd wager the legal system sees them as different.
- javagram 8y ago
  Tenant’s rights laws control when and how an apartment owner can enter the residence. Those laws don’t really exist for hotels in the USA as far as I know. Hotels are categorized as temporary dwellings and are regulated much differently.
  - vageli 8y ago
    > Is there a right to privacy in my hotel room? Generally, yes, you have a right to expect privacy in your hotel room as long as you are using the hotel room in a normal, responsible way. However, if you are engaging in anything illegal or disturbing other guests, hotel management can enter your room without your permission. [0] The quote's not from a definitive source but there is language like that all over the internet. Merely attending a conference does not a criminal make, so I think the hotel has a thin defense here. [0]: https://consumer.findlaw.com/travel-rules-and-rights/hotel-questions-and-answers.html https://consumer.findlaw.com/travel-rules-and-rights/hotel-q...