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BREAK OF JOURNEY Rules vary by train company and route. In general you cannot break your outward journey (except for necessary changes of train) but you can br

BREAK OF JOURNEY Rules vary by train company and route. In general you cannot break your outward journey (except for necessary changes of train) but you can break your return journey. Source: https://www.splityourticket.co.uk/info/fare-types.aspx https://www.splityourticket.co.uk/info/fare-types.aspx I've already dealt with the legality of split ticketing in another post.

aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago
And how do they enforce it? Chain you to the train?
- anticensor 8y ago
  No, they fine at exit.
exikyut 8y ago
Huh. I wonder if it would be cheaper to do a ticket like start -> actual destination (stay on train) -> overshoot destination (get off) (get back on) -> (turn around; begin return trip) -> actual destination (get off) (get back on) -> start ? Seems utterly unintuitive, and it probably is, but I am curious.
- ColinWright 8y ago
  That can be possible, and I have done it. Part of the reason for all this is that the train system has been broken up into a collection of franchises. Some companies will then incentivise some journeys, and so the fare doesn't always reflect the time or distance of the journey being made. As a result you can find and exploit anomalies, but only if you're willing to spend the (sometimes considerable) time and effort.
ColinWright 8y ago
The National Conditions of Carriage actually permit breaking an outbound journey, provided the ticket remains valid for the continuation. Outbound tickets are usually only valid on the day, so in that case you can't continue the journey the next day. But a regular standard (or first-class) ticket on a train that's not the last train of the day can be broken on the outbound journey. For most tickets. Some tickets, such as Advance and some Super-Off-Peak, have additional conditions. However, I do have a letter from a train company saying that they were wrong to have charged for an extra ticket, and wrong to have tried to start proceedings. So breaking an outbound journey can be legal, and in such cases buying an over-length ticket is possible. It's circumstances like these that led in part to some of the specifics of the recent shake-up of the fare structures.

aaaaaaaaaab 8y ago

And how do they enforce it? Chain you to the train?

anticensor 8y ago
No, they fine at exit.

exikyut 8y ago

Huh. I wonder if it would be cheaper to do a ticket like start -> actual destination (stay on train) -> overshoot destination (get off) (get back on) -> (turn around; begin return trip) -> actual destination (get off) (get back on) -> start ? Seems utterly unintuitive, and it probably is, but I am curious.

ColinWright 8y ago
That can be possible, and I have done it. Part of the reason for all this is that the train system has been broken up into a collection of franchises. Some companies will then incentivise some journeys, and so the fare doesn't always reflect the time or distance of the journey being made. As a result you can find and exploit anomalies, but only if you're willing to spend the (sometimes considerable) time and effort.

ColinWright 8y ago

The National Conditions of Carriage actually permit breaking an outbound journey, provided the ticket remains valid for the continuation. Outbound tickets are usually only valid on the day, so in that case you can't continue the journey the next day. But a regular standard (or first-class) ticket on a train that's not the last train of the day can be broken on the outbound journey. For most tickets. Some tickets, such as Advance and some Super-Off-Peak, have additional conditions. However, I do have a letter from a train company saying that they were wrong to have charged for an extra ticket, and wrong to have tried to start proceedings. So breaking an outbound journey can be legal, and in such cases buying an over-length ticket is possible. It's circumstances like these that led in part to some of the specifics of the recent shake-up of the fare structures.