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This is plain stupid. A for-profit hospital will benefit from abusing any patient while a political abuse only targets a small portion of opponents. And politic

This is plain stupid. A for-profit hospital will benefit from abusing any patient while a political abuse only targets a small portion of opponents. And political abuse is an issue of the counter-powers in your political system, not of the way hospitals work: a functional political system will have functional public hospitals, but a functional economy will have private hospitals whose interests diverge substantially from the patients ones.

Gibbon1 8y ago
> This is plain stupid. Not stupid you are just young and ill informed. > While on a phone call with Helen Thomas about the Watergate break-in, King pulled the phone cord from the wall. She was held against her will in a California hotel room and forcefully sedated by a psychiatrist after a physical struggle with five men that left her needing stitches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell
- lapinot 8y ago
  I'm not saying this does not exist, i'm pretty aware that this is a real problem. I'm just saying that this remark--even if true and on point--doesn't constitute a valid argument against public hospitals since (1) this problem of public hospitals has already a much more widespread cousin in the private sector and (2) it is not intrinsically a problem of the hospital but a governance issue (which is called power abuse and has a lot of other symptoms).
  - Gibbon1 8y ago
    The US got really leery of committing people to mental hospitals on little hard evidence because the power was being widely abused. The usual argument is there options in between living on the streets and being imprisoned in a mental hospital. My brother is mildly retarded and lives in a apartment complex where there very minimal supervision. He has a car and a job and can come and go as he pleases. 'Supervision' is there mostly to protect him from 'us' not the other way around.

Gibbon1 8y ago

> This is plain stupid. Not stupid you are just young and ill informed. > While on a phone call with Helen Thomas about the Watergate break-in, King pulled the phone cord from the wall. She was held against her will in a California hotel room and forcefully sedated by a psychiatrist after a physical struggle with five men that left her needing stitches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Mitchell

lapinot 8y ago
I'm not saying this does not exist, i'm pretty aware that this is a real problem. I'm just saying that this remark--even if true and on point--doesn't constitute a valid argument against public hospitals since (1) this problem of public hospitals has already a much more widespread cousin in the private sector and (2) it is not intrinsically a problem of the hospital but a governance issue (which is called power abuse and has a lot of other symptoms).
- Gibbon1 8y ago
  The US got really leery of committing people to mental hospitals on little hard evidence because the power was being widely abused. The usual argument is there options in between living on the streets and being imprisoned in a mental hospital. My brother is mildly retarded and lives in a apartment complex where there very minimal supervision. He has a car and a job and can come and go as he pleases. 'Supervision' is there mostly to protect him from 'us' not the other way around.