1 I have used and paid to use Fogbugz. I've used JIRA as well, and I would choose Fogbugz over JIRA any day, despite the silly name. Since I've gone independen

1 I have used and paid to use Fogbugz. I've used JIRA as well, and I would choose Fogbugz over JIRA any day, despite the silly name. Since I've gone independent, I use the free version of hosted Fogbugz (Fog Creek is kind enough to offer it for free for independents and startups). --edit it's free for students too 2 I'm of the opinion that truly top talent doesn't care about the language. It's the programming problems they care about. Fogbugz does some non trivial stuff like evidence based scheduling. I'm sure some top programmers would find that interesting, regardless of whether it's programmed in a vb-like syntax or not. Having said that, Joel says a lot of things, some of it makes sense and some of it doesn't. It's the Internet. Opinions are plentiful, and we're all free to agree or disagree.