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>When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly DNC, DCCC, the people who control the party. The actual people who vote would agree, but the

>When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly DNC, DCCC, the people who control the party. The actual people who vote would agree, but the party leadership itself does not care.

beat 8y ago
I don't find defeatist conspiracy theories about the Powers That Be to be a very convincing argument.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  They're not conspiracy theories at all. The establishment Democrats just don't care, and don't align with the voters in the party. They vote in line with Republicans and Trump over and over. Here are some recent examples, they're essentially neoconservatives at this point. Schumer won't whip votes to block Kavanaugh [1]. Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the largest Military defense budget in history [2]. Tom Perez reversed a ban on taking donations from fossil fuel companies [3]. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-game-avoids-hardball-with-centrist-democrats-over-supreme-court-pick/2018/07/27/f3fb86dc-90d2-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bfc3e89562a5 https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-and-senate-democrats-vote-68-percent-and-85-percent-for-massive-military-spending/#7997d6f45101 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-an... [3] http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-passes-resolution-on-fossil-fuel-donations http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-pass...
- davidw 8y ago
  No kidding. Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event.
  - prolikewh0a 8y ago
    >Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event. What does this even mean? I clearly stated leadership. The voters want to help themselves and others with things like a green new deal, medicare/medicaid for all, free college/trade, but the leadership continuously votes against the actual voters that identify as being in the Democratic Party.

>When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly DNC, DCCC, the people who control the party. The actual people who vote would agree, but the party leadership itself does not care.

beat 8y ago

I don't find defeatist conspiracy theories about the Powers That Be to be a very convincing argument.

prolikewh0a 8y ago
They're not conspiracy theories at all. The establishment Democrats just don't care, and don't align with the voters in the party. They vote in line with Republicans and Trump over and over. Here are some recent examples, they're essentially neoconservatives at this point. Schumer won't whip votes to block Kavanaugh [1]. Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the largest Military defense budget in history [2]. Tom Perez reversed a ban on taking donations from fossil fuel companies [3]. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-game-avoids-hardball-with-centrist-democrats-over-supreme-court-pick/2018/07/27/f3fb86dc-90d2-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bfc3e89562a5 https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-and-senate-democrats-vote-68-percent-and-85-percent-for-massive-military-spending/#7997d6f45101 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-an... [3] http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-passes-resolution-on-fossil-fuel-donations http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-pass...
davidw 8y ago
No kidding. Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  >Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event. What does this even mean? I clearly stated leadership. The voters want to help themselves and others with things like a green new deal, medicare/medicaid for all, free college/trade, but the leadership continuously votes against the actual voters that identify as being in the Democratic Party.