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I use it to control my 3d printers at our local hackerspace. I have octoprint set up with a IP behind a NAT, and a hidden service. When I'm not at the 'space,

I use it to control my 3d printers at our local hackerspace. I have octoprint set up with a IP behind a NAT, and a hidden service. When I'm not at the 'space, I use Orbot on my android and OctoRemote. I get reasonably good speeds and latency. I can also view my webcam on the printer. It's not 4HD by any means, but is definitely usable.

detaro 8y ago
It wouldn't be surprising if hidden services had a lot better performance. Running a guard node is a lot less risky than an exit, so there's probably a lot more capacity available for traffic staying inside the network.
- crankylinuxuser 8y ago
  That makes a lot more sense, regarding in-Tor bandwidth. I've also had quite a few projects in which I'm trying to normalize Tor usage. My biggest one thus to date is a Tor-ified IoT network that uses your own resources instead of nebulous "cloud" providers. https://hackaday.io/project/12985-multisite-homeofficehackerspace-automation https://hackaday.io/project/12985-multisite-homeofficehacker... Long story short, there's a lot of promise to a .onion address, given it acts like a telephone number. Change IPs? Who cares. You retain your "number" no matter where you move :) It's also a lot less scary when talking to people about this, and how Tor is awesome in many areas.
  - detaro 8y ago
    Yes, Tor hidden services are neat technology, using them for IoT is a clever idea. Authenticated, not really scannable and you avoid the typical issue of going out to someone pre-determined to get connectivity from the outside.
    - Hello71 8y ago
      This only works for HSv3 though. HSv2 addresses are enumerable without too too much work.
- Franciscouzo 8y ago
  They perform quite worse: https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15&end=2018-08-13&source=all&server=public&filesize=5mb https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15... https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15&end=2018-08-13&source=all&server=onion&filesize=5mb https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15... You can see that for a 5MiB file, hidden services perform 2-3 times slower, I would put most of the blame on data having to travel through more hops when using hidden services.
  - detaro 8y ago
    Interesting, thanks for the correction and links.

detaro 8y ago

It wouldn't be surprising if hidden services had a lot better performance. Running a guard node is a lot less risky than an exit, so there's probably a lot more capacity available for traffic staying inside the network.

crankylinuxuser 8y ago
That makes a lot more sense, regarding in-Tor bandwidth. I've also had quite a few projects in which I'm trying to normalize Tor usage. My biggest one thus to date is a Tor-ified IoT network that uses your own resources instead of nebulous "cloud" providers. https://hackaday.io/project/12985-multisite-homeofficehackerspace-automation https://hackaday.io/project/12985-multisite-homeofficehacker... Long story short, there's a lot of promise to a .onion address, given it acts like a telephone number. Change IPs? Who cares. You retain your "number" no matter where you move :) It's also a lot less scary when talking to people about this, and how Tor is awesome in many areas.
- detaro 8y ago
  Yes, Tor hidden services are neat technology, using them for IoT is a clever idea. Authenticated, not really scannable and you avoid the typical issue of going out to someone pre-determined to get connectivity from the outside.
  - Hello71 8y ago
    This only works for HSv3 though. HSv2 addresses are enumerable without too too much work.
Franciscouzo 8y ago
They perform quite worse: https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15&end=2018-08-13&source=all&server=public&filesize=5mb https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15... https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15&end=2018-08-13&source=all&server=onion&filesize=5mb https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2018-05-15... You can see that for a 5MiB file, hidden services perform 2-3 times slower, I would put most of the blame on data having to travel through more hops when using hidden services.
- detaro 8y ago
  Interesting, thanks for the correction and links.