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How did you give up income?

by dqpb 8y ago

InitialLastName 8y ago
After a quick glance through their comment history, it appears they figured out this one neat trick called "homelessness".
- newman8r 8y ago
  If that's true then I feel bad for the guy. Would probably be best for the IRS to give people amnesty in that situation.
  - InitialLastName 8y ago
    I feel worse for the people whose actual, involuntary problems they are trivializing by presenting (true or not) their situation as a "lifestyle choice". If it helps, some other comments in this thread indicate that there's no need to file a tax return on yearly income under ~$10,000 so this person and others in their situation would likely qualify. I don't think the IRS should give amnesty for past willful nonpayment in light of present circumstances though. We have a different mechanism for that; it's called bankruptcy.
    - newman8r 8y ago
      If you never filed the tax returns in the first place or willfully evaded, you couldn't discharge that debt in bankruptcy. Maybe amnesty isn't the solution, but if you're living out of your car and have IRS issues looming over your head, escaping that life could be pretty tough, and that sucks.
    - forgotmypw 8y ago
      If you re-read my comment, you will see that there was never a non-payment, only a non-filing.
  - forgotmypw 8y ago
    Don't feel bad for me. I'm happier than I've ever been.
    - InitialLastName 8y ago
      It must be great to have friends who are able and willing to bankroll your lifestyle.
    - newman8r 8y ago
      That's good to hear, sounds like an interesting adventure.
- bena 8y ago
  "Beat the IRS with this one simple trick. Auditors hate him." Reminds me of this video I was watching on tiny homes. This guy converted a school bus into a home for him, his wife, and three children. And he was totally over-selling everything in it. Going on an on about how you can hang stuff here and there to save space. How the counters can be used for this and that and how multipurpose they are (like most flat surfaces). How everything is able to be cleaned. Etc. And I'm like "Cool, it is a small space and you've managed to fit everyone inside to whatever degree of success you are comfortable with, but your 'dryer' is literally hanging clothes and turning on the heater." I'm sure you can live like that. I'm sure you can manage living effectively homeless and with the barest of cash to buy whatever you need day to day. But that also requires a level of commitment and hustle I just don't want to deal with. I want to go home, watch Netflix, noodle on my guitar, build some Legos, whatever. Without having to think "Well, where should I sleep tonight that won't get me stabbed or dead from exposure"
  - forgotmypw 8y ago
    To each his own, I guess. I am always home and free to do those things. I have yet to be stabbed or die from exposure.
    - bena 8y ago
      Where is home? You've mentioned elsewhere that you couchsurf. That's pretty much just mooching off of someone else's largess. And without a permanent, private residence where do you keep things like a guitar or built models? Being able to live "cash free" because you are able to stay with people who will let you crash rent free is more exploitative than savvy in my opinion.
forgotmypw 8y ago
I stopped paying rent, first couch-surfing and van-dwelling, then living mostly outdoors, in a sleeping bag. I stopped paying for food, taking advantage of all the food that is wasted daily. I stopped paying for clothes, wearing free second-hand instead. That's most of it. For other things, like computers and phones, I follow a similar strategy. Now I am free to spend almost all the time I have in whatever ways I choose.

How did you give up income?

by dqpb 8y ago

How did you give up income?

After a quick glance through their comment history, it appears they figured out this one neat trick called "homelessness".

newman8r 8y ago
If that's true then I feel bad for the guy. Would probably be best for the IRS to give people amnesty in that situation.
- InitialLastName 8y ago
  I feel worse for the people whose actual, involuntary problems they are trivializing by presenting (true or not) their situation as a "lifestyle choice". If it helps, some other comments in this thread indicate that there's no need to file a tax return on yearly income under ~$10,000 so this person and others in their situation would likely qualify. I don't think the IRS should give amnesty for past willful nonpayment in light of present circumstances though. We have a different mechanism for that; it's called bankruptcy.
  - newman8r 8y ago
    If you never filed the tax returns in the first place or willfully evaded, you couldn't discharge that debt in bankruptcy. Maybe amnesty isn't the solution, but if you're living out of your car and have IRS issues looming over your head, escaping that life could be pretty tough, and that sucks.
  - forgotmypw 8y ago
    If you re-read my comment, you will see that there was never a non-payment, only a non-filing.
- forgotmypw 8y ago
  Don't feel bad for me. I'm happier than I've ever been.
  - InitialLastName 8y ago
    It must be great to have friends who are able and willing to bankroll your lifestyle.
  - newman8r 8y ago
    That's good to hear, sounds like an interesting adventure.
bena 8y ago
"Beat the IRS with this one simple trick. Auditors hate him." Reminds me of this video I was watching on tiny homes. This guy converted a school bus into a home for him, his wife, and three children. And he was totally over-selling everything in it. Going on an on about how you can hang stuff here and there to save space. How the counters can be used for this and that and how multipurpose they are (like most flat surfaces). How everything is able to be cleaned. Etc. And I'm like "Cool, it is a small space and you've managed to fit everyone inside to whatever degree of success you are comfortable with, but your 'dryer' is literally hanging clothes and turning on the heater." I'm sure you can live like that. I'm sure you can manage living effectively homeless and with the barest of cash to buy whatever you need day to day. But that also requires a level of commitment and hustle I just don't want to deal with. I want to go home, watch Netflix, noodle on my guitar, build some Legos, whatever. Without having to think "Well, where should I sleep tonight that won't get me stabbed or dead from exposure"
- forgotmypw 8y ago
  To each his own, I guess. I am always home and free to do those things. I have yet to be stabbed or die from exposure.
  - bena 8y ago
    Where is home? You've mentioned elsewhere that you couchsurf. That's pretty much just mooching off of someone else's largess. And without a permanent, private residence where do you keep things like a guitar or built models? Being able to live "cash free" because you are able to stay with people who will let you crash rent free is more exploitative than savvy in my opinion.

forgotmypw 8y ago

I stopped paying rent, first couch-surfing and van-dwelling, then living mostly outdoors, in a sleeping bag. I stopped paying for food, taking advantage of all the food that is wasted daily. I stopped paying for clothes, wearing free second-hand instead. That's most of it. For other things, like computers and phones, I follow a similar strategy. Now I am free to spend almost all the time I have in whatever ways I choose.