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Worth repeating: Senator Ron Wyden has a bill that would require paper ballots. Worth calling your lawmakers to support. Edit: press release with link to the

by davidw 8y ago

Worth repeating: Senator Ron Wyden has a bill that would require paper ballots. Worth calling your lawmakers to support. Edit: press release with link to the full text of the bill - https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-gillibrand-markey-merkley-murray-and-warren-introduce-bill-to-secure-elections- https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-gilli...

beat 8y ago
I would love to see Democrats pick up a blanket ban on paperless electronic voting as an issue. The GOP won't, for, um, reasons. This is a marvelous partisan opportunity, if the Democrats are wise enough to pick it up.
- komali2 8y ago
  Republicans won't for the very simple reason that it's supported by democrats. The Republican party made it abundantly clear for the last decade that their primary platform is "don't let the left have any wins."
  - jumelles 8y ago
    Party over country.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  The Democrats also would never go through with this. The Democrats are Establishment Elite who have everything absolutely perfect right now except for a little push from the far left that they're trying to crush. Get this idea out of your head that the Democrats in the current form even give the slightest of shit about American's ability to vote safely & securely unless it has something do with Russia.
  - beat 8y ago
    When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly? Because I'm pretty sure every rank and file Democrat I know would agree with me on this issue.
    - prolikewh0a 8y ago
      >When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly DNC, DCCC, the people who control the party. The actual people who vote would agree, but the party leadership itself does not care.
      - beat 8y ago
        I don't find defeatist conspiracy theories about the Powers That Be to be a very convincing argument.
        prolikewh0a 8y ago
        They're not conspiracy theories at all. The establishment Democrats just don't care, and don't align with the voters in the party. They vote in line with Republicans and Trump over and over. Here are some recent examples, they're essentially neoconservatives at this point. Schumer won't whip votes to block Kavanaugh [1]. Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the largest Military defense budget in history [2]. Tom Perez reversed a ban on taking donations from fossil fuel companies [3]. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-game-avoids-hardball-with-centrist-democrats-over-supreme-court-pick/2018/07/27/f3fb86dc-90d2-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bfc3e89562a5 https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-and-senate-democrats-vote-68-percent-and-85-percent-for-massive-military-spending/#7997d6f45101 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-an... [3] http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-passes-resolution-on-fossil-fuel-donations http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-pass...
        davidw 8y ago
        No kidding. Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event.
meritt 8y ago
We vote entirely by paper ballots and additionally by mail in Oregon (Senator Wyden is OR). You have 2-3 weeks to read through the issues, candidates, and then make hopefully responsible and educated choices. And if you don't want to pay for a stamp, there's numerous dropboxes around town where you can deposit your ballot at your convenience. There's no rush to the polls, nobody has to skip voting because they couldn't get to the polls, and for the outliers who aren't able to receive/send mail, they can pickup their ballots at the local county elections office. Oregon was also the first state that instituted automatic voter registration.
- Eric_WVGG 8y ago
  Also sleazy tactics like voter intimidation at the polls and understaffing precincts become impossible. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/27/15701708/voting-by-mail https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/27/15701708/v...

by davidw 8y ago

beat 8y ago

I would love to see Democrats pick up a blanket ban on paperless electronic voting as an issue. The GOP won't, for, um, reasons. This is a marvelous partisan opportunity, if the Democrats are wise enough to pick it up.

komali2 8y ago
Republicans won't for the very simple reason that it's supported by democrats. The Republican party made it abundantly clear for the last decade that their primary platform is "don't let the left have any wins."
- jumelles 8y ago
  Party over country.
prolikewh0a 8y ago
The Democrats also would never go through with this. The Democrats are Establishment Elite who have everything absolutely perfect right now except for a little push from the far left that they're trying to crush. Get this idea out of your head that the Democrats in the current form even give the slightest of shit about American's ability to vote safely & securely unless it has something do with Russia.
- beat 8y ago
  When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly? Because I'm pretty sure every rank and file Democrat I know would agree with me on this issue.
  - prolikewh0a 8y ago
    >When you say "The Democrats", who are you talking about, exactly DNC, DCCC, the people who control the party. The actual people who vote would agree, but the party leadership itself does not care.
    - beat 8y ago
      I don't find defeatist conspiracy theories about the Powers That Be to be a very convincing argument.
      - prolikewh0a 8y ago
        They're not conspiracy theories at all. The establishment Democrats just don't care, and don't align with the voters in the party. They vote in line with Republicans and Trump over and over. Here are some recent examples, they're essentially neoconservatives at this point. Schumer won't whip votes to block Kavanaugh [1]. Democrats voted overwhelmingly in favor of the largest Military defense budget in history [2]. Tom Perez reversed a ban on taking donations from fossil fuel companies [3]. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-game-avoids-hardball-with-centrist-democrats-over-supreme-court-pick/2018/07/27/f3fb86dc-90d2-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bfc3e89562a5 https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/schumer-plays-long-... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-and-senate-democrats-vote-68-percent-and-85-percent-for-massive-military-spending/#7997d6f45101 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/06/20/house-an... [3] http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-passes-resolution-on-fossil-fuel-donations http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/401356-dnc-pass...
      - davidw 8y ago
        No kidding. Both parties are huge, and have a wide, wide variety of people in them in any event.

meritt 8y ago

We vote entirely by paper ballots and additionally by mail in Oregon (Senator Wyden is OR). You have 2-3 weeks to read through the issues, candidates, and then make hopefully responsible and educated choices. And if you don't want to pay for a stamp, there's numerous dropboxes around town where you can deposit your ballot at your convenience. There's no rush to the polls, nobody has to skip voting because they couldn't get to the polls, and for the outliers who aren't able to receive/send mail, they can pickup their ballots at the local county elections office. Oregon was also the first state that instituted automatic voter registration.

Eric_WVGG 8y ago
Also sleazy tactics like voter intimidation at the polls and understaffing precincts become impossible. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/27/15701708/voting-by-mail https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/27/15701708/v...