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"several new coal plants being built in Germany" Didn't know about that, which ones? I thought it was natural gas plants? [1] looks like a small list [1] htt

"several new coal plants being built in Germany" Didn't know about that, which ones? I thought it was natural gas plants? [1] looks like a small list [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_Kohlekraftwerke_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_Kohlekraftwerk...

jerven 8y ago
There is just one coal power plant under construction Dateln 4. [1] This is not going well, with boiler and legal issues meaning a plant which was supposed to open in 2013 is to open 7 years later in 2020. Making it not exactly a great poster child for how to build a coal power plant. Being in construction for 13 years is not cheap and fast. [1] https://endcoal.org/tracker/ https://endcoal.org/tracker/
- greglindahl 8y ago
  Modern coal plants have to be complicated in order to be efficient, and that means they take a long time to build and have to be big. Meanwhile, wind and solar can be built much smaller and quicker, with the biggest bottleneck being building transmission lines (if needed.) Kind of funny that "big coal" is now suffering from a problem that nuclear has struggled with for a long time.
genericid 8y ago
That is not a list of plants being built, it's a list of planned plants (for a broad definition of planned). - 3 plants (Lünen, Profen and Niederaußem) have apparently been cancelled. - The promoter of Kalkar-Appeldorn has applied for a permit - The one of Stade has gotten one, but there is a lawsuit against that - Datteln replaces a plant that was shut down in 2014, though the old plant only had about 1/3 of the power. Meanwhile, coal power plants are being shut down without being replaced all the time.
- _Codemonkeyism 8y ago
  That was my point, a dim list - although the first in the list in "under construction - in undefined state", so it's not only planned. I looked for other lists but couldn't find one. Yes, I can't see a lot of coal power plants build in Germany.

jerven 8y ago

There is just one coal power plant under construction Dateln 4. [1] This is not going well, with boiler and legal issues meaning a plant which was supposed to open in 2013 is to open 7 years later in 2020. Making it not exactly a great poster child for how to build a coal power plant. Being in construction for 13 years is not cheap and fast. [1] https://endcoal.org/tracker/ https://endcoal.org/tracker/

greglindahl 8y ago
Modern coal plants have to be complicated in order to be efficient, and that means they take a long time to build and have to be big. Meanwhile, wind and solar can be built much smaller and quicker, with the biggest bottleneck being building transmission lines (if needed.) Kind of funny that "big coal" is now suffering from a problem that nuclear has struggled with for a long time.

genericid 8y ago

That is not a list of plants being built, it's a list of planned plants (for a broad definition of planned). - 3 plants (Lünen, Profen and Niederaußem) have apparently been cancelled. - The promoter of Kalkar-Appeldorn has applied for a permit - The one of Stade has gotten one, but there is a lawsuit against that - Datteln replaces a plant that was shut down in 2014, though the old plant only had about 1/3 of the power. Meanwhile, coal power plants are being shut down without being replaced all the time.

_Codemonkeyism 8y ago
That was my point, a dim list - although the first in the list in "under construction - in undefined state", so it's not only planned. I looked for other lists but couldn't find one. Yes, I can't see a lot of coal power plants build in Germany.