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This article is a bit misleading. She might have won $200,000, but it doesn’t account for buy-ins. Also, tournament poker has huge variance. It could take years

by aml183 8y ago

This article is a bit misleading. She might have won $200,000, but it doesn’t account for buy-ins. Also, tournament poker has huge variance. It could take years to know if someone is a winning player. If you play cash, a good player will win something like 7/BB per hour. I’m not saying she is or isn’t a good player, but the metrics used are misleading.

kofejnik 8y ago
Exactly this. Literally anyone can randomly luck a few tourneys. Case in point - Main Event winners such as Jamie Gold and/or Jerry Yang.
cepth 8y ago
You're correct that "career earnings" is a misleading statistic, but it's one that's popularly used in poker. Daniel Negreanu, currently #2 on the all-time money list, actually had a net negative year in 2017 despite winning $2.8 million that year (https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-negreanu-loses-money-in-2017-despite-2-7m-in-tourney-wins-56485 https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-negreanu-loses-money-i...). That said, I'm not sure the article is that misleading. Maria is 720th in the GPI rankings, which does account for buy-ins (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869 http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869). For someone who began playing a year ago, that's a pretty remarkable achievement. EDIT: I should also note that "career earnings" or close variations are used in several sports, including golf and tennis. Take home pay is much lower than topline/headline numbers, but for obvious reasons it becomes tedious to ask people to calculate and publicize their living and travel expenses, etc.
Nokinside 8y ago
>$200,000 in tournament jackpots. I have never played jackpot tournaments. If I understand correctly it's you get a jackpot from winning several sit&go tournaments in a row. I don't know how the money there is divided.
- rezz 8y ago
  @nokinside the quote is poorly written, this isn't some special bonus she won, she's amassed over 200k in earnings over the last 18 months. Her largest single win being worth over 80k. You can view her stats here. http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869 http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869
rezz 8y ago
How is it misleading? The theme of the article isn't that she's going to be the next Tom Dwan after all. If someone wins the lottery after investing 1 million dollars on tickets they still won the lottery.
- zone411 8y ago
  It is misleading because the entry fees are not $1.

by aml183 8y ago

kofejnik 8y ago

Exactly this. Literally anyone can randomly luck a few tourneys. Case in point - Main Event winners such as Jamie Gold and/or Jerry Yang.

cepth 8y ago

You're correct that "career earnings" is a misleading statistic, but it's one that's popularly used in poker. Daniel Negreanu, currently #2 on the all-time money list, actually had a net negative year in 2017 despite winning $2.8 million that year (https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-negreanu-loses-money-in-2017-despite-2-7m-in-tourney-wins-56485 https://www.cardschat.com/news/daniel-negreanu-loses-money-i...). That said, I'm not sure the article is that misleading. Maria is 720th in the GPI rankings, which does account for buy-ins (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869 http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869). For someone who began playing a year ago, that's a pretty remarkable achievement. EDIT: I should also note that "career earnings" or close variations are used in several sports, including golf and tennis. Take home pay is much lower than topline/headline numbers, but for obvious reasons it becomes tedious to ask people to calculate and publicize their living and travel expenses, etc.

Nokinside 8y ago

>$200,000 in tournament jackpots. I have never played jackpot tournaments. If I understand correctly it's you get a jackpot from winning several sit&go tournaments in a row. I don't know how the money there is divided.

rezz 8y ago
@nokinside the quote is poorly written, this isn't some special bonus she won, she's amassed over 200k in earnings over the last 18 months. Her largest single win being worth over 80k. You can view her stats here. http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869 http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=531869

rezz 8y ago

How is it misleading? The theme of the article isn't that she's going to be the next Tom Dwan after all. If someone wins the lottery after investing 1 million dollars on tickets they still won the lottery.

zone411 8y ago
It is misleading because the entry fees are not $1.