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I agree with you and can only add that at some point, obsessing over information collection from stuff like this is a waste of life. Yes, privacy is important.

I agree with you and can only add that at some point, obsessing over information collection from stuff like this is a waste of life. Yes, privacy is important. Focusing on it to the point of obsession, as so many of us do, is just time that could have been imbued with much more meaning in light of our limited time here.

candiodari 8y ago
I think Google's motivations are likely to include protecting the internet, as they are the incumbent in so many spaces. Problems honestdns solves: First, outright faking of dns resolution. Maybe to switch ads on internet pages. Maybe to falsify the pages entirely. Remember how internet in hotels worked 10 years ago ? Second, lying to improve cost metrics for isps. Say, lying to cdns'es about the users location to use the cheapest connection for the isp. Or just lying to give users a bad connection and save on bandwidth. Third censorship. Mostly dumb organisations' censorship. School networks in early 2000s are a good example. Fourth, special support for a number of their products. Starting with, of course, their own cdns, but I don't think it'S limited to that.
- tajen 8y ago
  Third-Censorship- I use 8.8.8.8 often in France when thepiratebay doesn’t get resolved (I’ve never checked whether it was the ADSL ISPs or mobile providers too).
blub 8y ago
Surveillance capitalism is one of the big topics of our times, and the outcome of this confrontation between individual rights and corporate greed will influence generations to come. At the same time, it's one more chapter in the history of capital vs. labour: whichever advantages will be extracted from the massive information imbalance will go to the few, to the detriment of the many. I'm not sure you truly comprehend that a few dozen individuals have access some of the most intimate details on the lives of billions of people and they can do pretty much whatever they like with that, barring any roadblocks from the impotent US privacy laws. And not being part of the game is not really an option any more when almost all your friends and relatives are playing. This is crazy when one thinks about it: whether I want it or not, my information will end up in the databases of some corporation. And I was born before this craziness, but a significant number of people will have their whole lives stored there and the only way to have a modicum of control over our data is the GDPR. All the vulnerable aspects of an individual - finding a home, a job, getting medical care, etc - can be influenced through the power of information. Undesirable individuals can be harmed or effectively excluded from society without them even suspecting it. But undesirable is such an abstract word... in the past this meant women, homosexuals, jews, union leaders, religious leaders, journalists and so on.

candiodari 8y ago

I think Google's motivations are likely to include protecting the internet, as they are the incumbent in so many spaces. Problems honestdns solves: First, outright faking of dns resolution. Maybe to switch ads on internet pages. Maybe to falsify the pages entirely. Remember how internet in hotels worked 10 years ago ? Second, lying to improve cost metrics for isps. Say, lying to cdns'es about the users location to use the cheapest connection for the isp. Or just lying to give users a bad connection and save on bandwidth. Third censorship. Mostly dumb organisations' censorship. School networks in early 2000s are a good example. Fourth, special support for a number of their products. Starting with, of course, their own cdns, but I don't think it'S limited to that.

tajen 8y ago
Third-Censorship- I use 8.8.8.8 often in France when thepiratebay doesn’t get resolved (I’ve never checked whether it was the ADSL ISPs or mobile providers too).

blub 8y ago

Surveillance capitalism is one of the big topics of our times, and the outcome of this confrontation between individual rights and corporate greed will influence generations to come. At the same time, it's one more chapter in the history of capital vs. labour: whichever advantages will be extracted from the massive information imbalance will go to the few, to the detriment of the many. I'm not sure you truly comprehend that a few dozen individuals have access some of the most intimate details on the lives of billions of people and they can do pretty much whatever they like with that, barring any roadblocks from the impotent US privacy laws. And not being part of the game is not really an option any more when almost all your friends and relatives are playing. This is crazy when one thinks about it: whether I want it or not, my information will end up in the databases of some corporation. And I was born before this craziness, but a significant number of people will have their whole lives stored there and the only way to have a modicum of control over our data is the GDPR. All the vulnerable aspects of an individual - finding a home, a job, getting medical care, etc - can be influenced through the power of information. Undesirable individuals can be harmed or effectively excluded from society without them even suspecting it. But undesirable is such an abstract word... in the past this meant women, homosexuals, jews, union leaders, religious leaders, journalists and so on.