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> The most common form of ID in the US is a driver's license. It's the most common, but not the only one. You can just show up and ask for a plain ID, and avoi

> The most common form of ID in the US is a driver's license. It's the most common, but not the only one. You can just show up and ask for a plain ID, and avoid all that. And I kinda have to wonder how people get their I-9 filled out without any form of ID. You generally need an ID just to work in this country.

TomMckenny 8y ago
There are states where you have to show a utility bill to get one of these.
- debacle 8y ago
  You just need to show proof of residence, of which a utility bill is one example.
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  - CPLX 8y ago
    Which means you have to be in a stable living situation.
    - pas 8y ago
      What kind of ID homeless people can get then? Can they vote? Register to vote?
- Covzire 8y ago
  I've never seen a requirement that specifically listed "must have utility bill". There are usually a list of valid documents, and in someone's worst case, if they're disabled, they're going to be collecting disability and will have official correspondence from the state with their name and address on it that would qualify.
h4b4n3r0 8y ago
ID is also required to receive welfare or exercise the 2nd amendment or 1st amendment right to peaceful assembly (many municipalities require a permit for that, which will not be issued to a person without an ID). It's interesting that requiring an ID to vote is "disenfranchisement" yet thousands of other things where ID is required (including the exercise of some constitutional rights) are not "disenfranchisement".
- spacehome 8y ago
  It's controversial because people without ID overwhelmingly vote for one party. If having an ID were uncorrelated with party affiliation, we wouldn't be having this stupid conversation.
- ravenstine 8y ago
  There's nothing that you said that isn't factual. What's funny is any argument against voter ID should be blown out of the water by just making IDs totally free (yes, I know, paid by taxpayers). But I've had this discussion with people before, including people who actually believe that it's racist to have any form of ID to be required anywhere. Yes, these people do exist. The conversation always goes down the road of "well what about the mountain people who live 200 miles from the DMV, don't work, don't have an address, don't have a car, and can't take a bus?" It's the most immature form of "debate" to hunt and peck for extreme edge cases and pretend that they are silver bullets. Aha! It doesn't work for the minority who won't hop on a bike and become a part of civilization, therefore those who are pro voter ID hate the poor. Yeeeup. Personally, I don't really care about this issue as I think voting is a waste of time and I don't do it anymore. But it's hilarious just how far extremists will take the argument.

TomMckenny 8y ago

There are states where you have to show a utility bill to get one of these.

debacle 8y ago
You just need to show proof of residence, of which a utility bill is one example.
- deleted 8y ago
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- CPLX 8y ago
  Which means you have to be in a stable living situation.
  - pas 8y ago
    What kind of ID homeless people can get then? Can they vote? Register to vote?
Covzire 8y ago
I've never seen a requirement that specifically listed "must have utility bill". There are usually a list of valid documents, and in someone's worst case, if they're disabled, they're going to be collecting disability and will have official correspondence from the state with their name and address on it that would qualify.

h4b4n3r0 8y ago

ID is also required to receive welfare or exercise the 2nd amendment or 1st amendment right to peaceful assembly (many municipalities require a permit for that, which will not be issued to a person without an ID). It's interesting that requiring an ID to vote is "disenfranchisement" yet thousands of other things where ID is required (including the exercise of some constitutional rights) are not "disenfranchisement".

spacehome 8y ago
It's controversial because people without ID overwhelmingly vote for one party. If having an ID were uncorrelated with party affiliation, we wouldn't be having this stupid conversation.
ravenstine 8y ago
There's nothing that you said that isn't factual. What's funny is any argument against voter ID should be blown out of the water by just making IDs totally free (yes, I know, paid by taxpayers). But I've had this discussion with people before, including people who actually believe that it's racist to have any form of ID to be required anywhere. Yes, these people do exist. The conversation always goes down the road of "well what about the mountain people who live 200 miles from the DMV, don't work, don't have an address, don't have a car, and can't take a bus?" It's the most immature form of "debate" to hunt and peck for extreme edge cases and pretend that they are silver bullets. Aha! It doesn't work for the minority who won't hop on a bike and become a part of civilization, therefore those who are pro voter ID hate the poor. Yeeeup. Personally, I don't really care about this issue as I think voting is a waste of time and I don't do it anymore. But it's hilarious just how far extremists will take the argument.