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The "can't take time off work" excuse doesn't work either, since you need valid ID to work. One that says your a citizen, and one with your picture (or just you

The "can't take time off work" excuse doesn't work either, since you need valid ID to work. One that says your a citizen, and one with your picture (or just your passport, since it's both). https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-rights-book/chapter16-3.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/employee-...

wool_gather 8y ago
That list of documents is not the same as those that are acceptable for voting.
- ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
  Exactly, it's more strict.... I apologize if I didn't spell that out. To work in this country you need to provide more identification then you need to vote. At the very least, I think it should be equivalent. In reality, I think at the very least a government issued photo ID is required. We're talking about the integrity of an election after all.
mrsteveman1 8y ago
Voter registration cards are on the identification document list in that link, they don't have pictures on them. Either way the requirements to vote are currently less strict in many places than the requirements to get a photo ID that can then meet the requirements of voter ID laws. That, all by itself, means it will affect some percentage of the voters in an area, and that means it can easily affect the outcome of an election, at the very least for a period of time that may span multiple election cycles. And that is the real reason voter ID laws are constantly being proposed. Constantly re-arguing the theoretical neutrality and easy availability of ID (which is generally neither free or easily available, in some cases deliberately) ignores the practical effect of voter ID laws, and the motivations of those pushing for voter ID laws.
- ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
  >Constantly re-arguing the theoretical neutrality and easy availability of ID (which is generally neither free or easily available, in some cases deliberately) ignores the practical effect of voter ID laws, and the motivations of those pushing for voter ID laws. I'm not sure why we wouldn't want to guarantee the integrity of our elections. That's what this whole thread is about after all. Voter ID is just one key component of that.

wool_gather 8y ago

That list of documents is not the same as those that are acceptable for voting.

ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
Exactly, it's more strict.... I apologize if I didn't spell that out. To work in this country you need to provide more identification then you need to vote. At the very least, I think it should be equivalent. In reality, I think at the very least a government issued photo ID is required. We're talking about the integrity of an election after all.

mrsteveman1 8y ago

Voter registration cards are on the identification document list in that link, they don't have pictures on them. Either way the requirements to vote are currently less strict in many places than the requirements to get a photo ID that can then meet the requirements of voter ID laws. That, all by itself, means it will affect some percentage of the voters in an area, and that means it can easily affect the outcome of an election, at the very least for a period of time that may span multiple election cycles. And that is the real reason voter ID laws are constantly being proposed. Constantly re-arguing the theoretical neutrality and easy availability of ID (which is generally neither free or easily available, in some cases deliberately) ignores the practical effect of voter ID laws, and the motivations of those pushing for voter ID laws.

ApolloFortyNine 8y ago
>Constantly re-arguing the theoretical neutrality and easy availability of ID (which is generally neither free or easily available, in some cases deliberately) ignores the practical effect of voter ID laws, and the motivations of those pushing for voter ID laws. I'm not sure why we wouldn't want to guarantee the integrity of our elections. That's what this whole thread is about after all. Voter ID is just one key component of that.