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I worked at one of the above and can confirm that the interns, particularly the R&D interns were producing truly excellent work at the forefront of their respec

I worked at one of the above and can confirm that the interns, particularly the R&D interns were producing truly excellent work at the forefront of their respective fields, particularly with the mentorship of the senior staff. I'm serving a 1 year non-compete at the moment, and the only thing I find myself actually missing is the internal colloquia for some of the in-house projects and research. It's very, very cool of Jane Street to publish some of these details. All the firms are doing approximately all of the same things tech-wise, so I think Jane Street might get a leg up on the next batch of recruits just for being willing to give them some public credit.

sadamznintern 8y ago
Yup! One of my friends is at Jump right now, and I had to stop talking to him because he makes $10k a month while I make $8k in my full time job (never even got an interview there...) I really wish I was born with the raw intellect to do cool stuff like this.
- davidmr 8y ago
  If it makes you feel any better, there was no particular shortage of idiots there either, just like any other place.
  - sadamznintern 8y ago
    Oh no doubt! But I'd rather be a well paid and connected idiot than a poorly paid smart person.
    - Jedd 8y ago
      > But I'd rather be a well paid and connected idiot than a poorly paid smart person. As an aside, this is always an interesting thought experiment. I read an example in John Carreyrou's Bad Blood (Theranos expose) recently: "Several members of the Frat Pack joined Greg and two of his colleagues from the engineering department for lunch on the big terrace overlooking the parking lot one day. A discussion about the low IQs of some of the world’s top soccer players led them to debate the question, Would you rather be smart and poor or dumb and rich? The three engineers all chose smart and poor, while the Frat Pack voted unanimously for dumb and rich. Greg was struck by how clearly the line was drawn between the two groups. They were all in their mid-to late twenties with good educations, but they valued different things."
      - sadamznintern 8y ago
        Yup, I remember that bit too - I found myself agreeing with the Duke group as well. I grew up pretty upper middle class but I am absolutely poor compared to the circle Holmes' family was in, and I grew up pretty smart but definitely stupid compared to the circles she was in at Stanford. Its far easier to make a comfortable living off of a trust fund and family connections than actually having to move up the ladder at even Google.
- therealdrag0 8y ago
  Wait, are you complaining about making 8k/mo? Mate I think you need to chillax. Unless you have a big family to support, making more will not change your life to a significant degree. Money is great, but it's not sufficient for happiness.
  - sadamznintern 8y ago
    >Money is great, but it's not sufficient for happiness. I'm pretty skeptical of this idea. Money yields freedom and experiences (that I currently don't have).
    - inteleng 8y ago
      Man, you are such a dickhead.
    - rainonmoon 8y ago
      It's absolutely wild to read a comment like this as someone on about $800 a month (or about $600USD/mo.) I guess it's all relative.
      - sadamznintern 8y ago
        I pay $2.9k a month in rent and utilities. I'm also going to take a wild guess and say you're working on a graduate stipend or aren't in the US.
        therealdrag0 8y ago
        > $2.9k That's your choice though right? I know people in Seattle, SF, and NY who pay both less and more than that. I know many people who get tech jobs and then jump to an expensive car and apt, but there are other options--personally I choose to live more simply and save boat-loads of money because I like the idea of "FIRE". No one is forcing you to spend so much. Sure making more is fun and handy, but spending less is also an option. Anyways, good luck on your dreams :)
        8y ago
- rhodysurf 8y ago
  I think you need to learn to enjoy your own life. Money doesn’t buy you everything you think it does. Happiness comes from within
- dbuder 8y ago
  > and I had to stop talking to him because he makes $10k a month while I make $8k in my full time job I don't know what to say to get through to you, but this kind of thinking is holding you back more than intellect, connections or anything else.

sadamznintern 8y ago

Yup! One of my friends is at Jump right now, and I had to stop talking to him because he makes $10k a month while I make $8k in my full time job (never even got an interview there...) I really wish I was born with the raw intellect to do cool stuff like this.

davidmr 8y ago
If it makes you feel any better, there was no particular shortage of idiots there either, just like any other place.
- sadamznintern 8y ago
  Oh no doubt! But I'd rather be a well paid and connected idiot than a poorly paid smart person.
  - Jedd 8y ago
    > But I'd rather be a well paid and connected idiot than a poorly paid smart person. As an aside, this is always an interesting thought experiment. I read an example in John Carreyrou's Bad Blood (Theranos expose) recently: "Several members of the Frat Pack joined Greg and two of his colleagues from the engineering department for lunch on the big terrace overlooking the parking lot one day. A discussion about the low IQs of some of the world’s top soccer players led them to debate the question, Would you rather be smart and poor or dumb and rich? The three engineers all chose smart and poor, while the Frat Pack voted unanimously for dumb and rich. Greg was struck by how clearly the line was drawn between the two groups. They were all in their mid-to late twenties with good educations, but they valued different things."
    - sadamznintern 8y ago
      Yup, I remember that bit too - I found myself agreeing with the Duke group as well. I grew up pretty upper middle class but I am absolutely poor compared to the circle Holmes' family was in, and I grew up pretty smart but definitely stupid compared to the circles she was in at Stanford. Its far easier to make a comfortable living off of a trust fund and family connections than actually having to move up the ladder at even Google.
therealdrag0 8y ago
Wait, are you complaining about making 8k/mo? Mate I think you need to chillax. Unless you have a big family to support, making more will not change your life to a significant degree. Money is great, but it's not sufficient for happiness.
- sadamznintern 8y ago
  >Money is great, but it's not sufficient for happiness. I'm pretty skeptical of this idea. Money yields freedom and experiences (that I currently don't have).
  - inteleng 8y ago
    Man, you are such a dickhead.
  - rainonmoon 8y ago
    It's absolutely wild to read a comment like this as someone on about $800 a month (or about $600USD/mo.) I guess it's all relative.
    - sadamznintern 8y ago
      I pay $2.9k a month in rent and utilities. I'm also going to take a wild guess and say you're working on a graduate stipend or aren't in the US.
      - therealdrag0 8y ago
        > $2.9k That's your choice though right? I know people in Seattle, SF, and NY who pay both less and more than that. I know many people who get tech jobs and then jump to an expensive car and apt, but there are other options--personally I choose to live more simply and save boat-loads of money because I like the idea of "FIRE". No one is forcing you to spend so much. Sure making more is fun and handy, but spending less is also an option. Anyways, good luck on your dreams :)
      - 8y ago
rhodysurf 8y ago
I think you need to learn to enjoy your own life. Money doesn’t buy you everything you think it does. Happiness comes from within
dbuder 8y ago
> and I had to stop talking to him because he makes $10k a month while I make $8k in my full time job I don't know what to say to get through to you, but this kind of thinking is holding you back more than intellect, connections or anything else.