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Probably not. As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Jurisdictions that try and override this, simply get excluded from the custom

Probably not. As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Jurisdictions that try and override this, simply get excluded from the customer base. The market is still the ultimate decider for quality; if you build a crappy product, expect to get innovated out.

jacquesm 8y ago
> As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Judges might disagree. > Jurisdictions that try and override this, simply get excluded from the customer base. Until the customer base is the EU or the US. > The market is still the ultimate decider for quality; if you build a crappy product, expect to get innovated out. The market has utterly failed to decide for quality, the market is mostly interested in price and marketing power, quality has never been a very large factor, though in a mature market it might allow some manufacturers to charge a premium for their products.
pjmlp 8y ago
>Probably not. As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Thankfully EULAs are void in Europe. It is all a matter how big the customer base gets, I am hoping eventually we get something like that EU wide. > The market is still the ultimate decider for quality; if you build a crappy product, expect to get innovated out. If that was true 1 € shops wouldn't exist, but even those products have more testing than most software out there.
- anonuser123456 8y ago
  > Thankfully EULAs are void in Europe. It's not so clear cut that you should be thankful. The ability of companies to dictate the terms of which users can use their software, affects their risk calculation to produce the product in the first place. It is very likely that very useful but imperfect software will not be written because the risk / reward balance is tilted. Remember, you always have the ability to reject an EULA; simply don't use the product. > If that was true 1 € shops wouldn't exist, but even those products have more testing than most software out there. Consumers can make value choices on quality vs cost. This is a basic market function.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Than let it be so, software shouldn't be a special snowflake with special rules regarding commercial obligations.
  - paulie_a 8y ago
    As a customer I've found just ignoring all EULAs to be effective on the flip side. They are meaningless in my opinion and I don't give a crap about what it says. I'll use the software as I want.

jacquesm 8y ago

> As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Judges might disagree. > Jurisdictions that try and override this, simply get excluded from the customer base. Until the customer base is the EU or the US. > The market is still the ultimate decider for quality; if you build a crappy product, expect to get innovated out. The market has utterly failed to decide for quality, the market is mostly interested in price and marketing power, quality has never been a very large factor, though in a mature market it might allow some manufacturers to charge a premium for their products.

pjmlp 8y ago

>Probably not. As a company you just disclaim liability in your terms of service. Thankfully EULAs are void in Europe. It is all a matter how big the customer base gets, I am hoping eventually we get something like that EU wide. > The market is still the ultimate decider for quality; if you build a crappy product, expect to get innovated out. If that was true 1 € shops wouldn't exist, but even those products have more testing than most software out there.

anonuser123456 8y ago
> Thankfully EULAs are void in Europe. It's not so clear cut that you should be thankful. The ability of companies to dictate the terms of which users can use their software, affects their risk calculation to produce the product in the first place. It is very likely that very useful but imperfect software will not be written because the risk / reward balance is tilted. Remember, you always have the ability to reject an EULA; simply don't use the product. > If that was true 1 € shops wouldn't exist, but even those products have more testing than most software out there. Consumers can make value choices on quality vs cost. This is a basic market function.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Than let it be so, software shouldn't be a special snowflake with special rules regarding commercial obligations.
- paulie_a 8y ago
  As a customer I've found just ignoring all EULAs to be effective on the flip side. They are meaningless in my opinion and I don't give a crap about what it says. I'll use the software as I want.