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Interesting. But what I think makes; jsFiddle, Glitch and CodePen so popular, is that you can go to any computer with a browser and run the code, without insta

by gitgud 8y ago

Interesting. But what I think makes; jsFiddle, Glitch and CodePen so popular, is that you can go to any computer with a browser and run the code, without installing an environment. To run this on any machine you would need to download the Electron Fiddle environment and compile the Electron app binary every time... Very similar to normal development. So maybe electron just isn't as convenient for developing, compared to the browser technologies that the article compares it to...

chrisshroba 8y ago
I tend to disagree here. I think a few major things Electron Fiddle will bring to the table are: - the ability to easily get Electron help on StackOverflow, etc. by sharing the exact code you're running - one click (or close to it) examples of every single Electron API (I often find examples jsfiddles to be a much faster way to learn how to use a new API than digging through documentation) - possibly making it easier for people who are new to coding to get their feet wet in programming a desktop app without having to open a terminal. This is especially true if they can start with a working app and just tweak small things and see their tweaks reflected in the running app. All people are different, of course, but my biggest use cases of jsfiddle are using examples to learn how to use new frameworks. I’m excited to see the same thing for Electron apps!
- Stratoscope 8y ago
  Readable version of your bullet points: - the ability to easily get Electron help on StackOverflow, etc. by sharing the exact code you're running - one click (or close to it) examples of every single Electron API (I often find examples jsfiddles to be a much faster way to learn how to use a new API than digging through documentation) - possibly making it easier for people who are new to coding to get their feet wet in programming a desktop app without having to open a terminal. This is especially true if they can start with a working app and just tweak small things and see their tweaks reflected in the running app. (Don't use two space indents to force code style except for code samples.)
  - lowboy 8y ago
    Thanks for pasting it as normal text. Code style for textual content is especially bad on mobile.
- gitgud 8y ago
  Yes those are some good points. I guess my main problem is that it claims to be similar to JS Fiddle, when really it's closer to an IDE. For example take the IntelliJ IDE; - It's cross platform - Can run apps straight from stackoverflow - Present configurations, so people can focus on coding rather than tweaking. Electron Fiddle is basically the same thing, to me it would be more appropriate to call this Electron IDE. I'm still impressed and believe it will be a useful tool, though.
heisenbit 8y ago
Electron is a lot more convenient than a browser as soon as you want to access resources on the computer. Browsers are really good keeping you locked into a sand box.
- DonHopkins 8y ago
  Where "resources" includes APIs and native code libraries, not just files and hardware and stuff!

by gitgud 8y ago

chrisshroba 8y ago

I tend to disagree here. I think a few major things Electron Fiddle will bring to the table are: - the ability to easily get Electron help on StackOverflow, etc. by sharing the exact code you're running - one click (or close to it) examples of every single Electron API (I often find examples jsfiddles to be a much faster way to learn how to use a new API than digging through documentation) - possibly making it easier for people who are new to coding to get their feet wet in programming a desktop app without having to open a terminal. This is especially true if they can start with a working app and just tweak small things and see their tweaks reflected in the running app. All people are different, of course, but my biggest use cases of jsfiddle are using examples to learn how to use new frameworks. I’m excited to see the same thing for Electron apps!

Stratoscope 8y ago
Readable version of your bullet points: - the ability to easily get Electron help on StackOverflow, etc. by sharing the exact code you're running - one click (or close to it) examples of every single Electron API (I often find examples jsfiddles to be a much faster way to learn how to use a new API than digging through documentation) - possibly making it easier for people who are new to coding to get their feet wet in programming a desktop app without having to open a terminal. This is especially true if they can start with a working app and just tweak small things and see their tweaks reflected in the running app. (Don't use two space indents to force code style except for code samples.)
- lowboy 8y ago
  Thanks for pasting it as normal text. Code style for textual content is especially bad on mobile.
gitgud 8y ago
Yes those are some good points. I guess my main problem is that it claims to be similar to JS Fiddle, when really it's closer to an IDE. For example take the IntelliJ IDE; - It's cross platform - Can run apps straight from stackoverflow - Present configurations, so people can focus on coding rather than tweaking. Electron Fiddle is basically the same thing, to me it would be more appropriate to call this Electron IDE. I'm still impressed and believe it will be a useful tool, though.

heisenbit 8y ago

Electron is a lot more convenient than a browser as soon as you want to access resources on the computer. Browsers are really good keeping you locked into a sand box.

DonHopkins 8y ago
Where "resources" includes APIs and native code libraries, not just files and hardware and stuff!