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Oh the western people are scarred of China's horrors ? China is not doing anything that USA has not done in past. Putting people we don't like in camps (Japanes

Oh the western people are scarred of China's horrors ? China is not doing anything that USA has not done in past. Putting people we don't like in camps (Japanese Americans), conducting experiments on people we thought were less than humans (Blacks) and so on. So I think the inspiration is westerns societies.

fermienrico 8y ago
Implying and providing justification for current actions based on past conduct is not only illogical, it just spits into the face of human progress. Hunter gatherers had tribal wars and cannibalism, racism was rampant and women were powerless in the past. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be “scarred of the horrors”.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
Scale and ability to learn from the mistakes of the past matters.
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  USA is probably civilised only in last 60 years or so. Otherwise the country was far too overtly racist and oppressive to minorities. Uighur muslims are just a million or so and minuscule on larger scale. Also, it might be better to de-radicalize them now before they start bombing your cities. For example if USA had not armed Osama Bin Laden, 9/11 was avoidable. China is taking precautionary measures to avoid future wars and terrorist attacks like 9/11.
Cormarant5 8y ago
Stop it. Post-slavery US behavior is far more favorable and accommodating to human rights than China today. Your comparison between the US and China is false and misguided. Individual rights are generally cherished and protected in the US; in China they are stomped upon by the Communist boot.
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  > Post-slavery US behavior is far more favorable and accommodating to human rights than China today. Asking me to stop will not change facts. Slavery was abolished in 1865, let us see what other things happened after that and what China is doing to Muslims is a page from the exactly same book. 1. 1882 - US government kicked out Chinese (and Indian) people from USA by enacting purely racist law called "Chinese Exclusion Act". Not only Chinese citizens were kicked out but citizenships were revoked retrospectively. The remenants of this law can be seen even today in green card country wise caps on India and Chinese. Cancellation of H4-EAD is just an example of how US admin has institutional racism against Indians and Chinese people. 2. 1942 - Internment of Japanese Americans. Absolutely disgraceful and yet exactly same as what China is doing to Muslims. 3. Forced sterilisation of people in early 20th century. China at least allowed people to have one child. http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilization-and-eugenics-programs-in-the-united-states/ http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilizati... 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment US government knowingly decides to let syphilis spread among black males. 5. There is an entire wiki article about other unethical medical experiments USA did on blacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio... 6. The current laws like Civil Asset Forfeiture and Marijuana prohibition targets black families and people from low income families depriving them of their own money and freedom. I am not even coming to the topic of how USA had destabilised perfectly stable countries like Iraq, killed thousands of innocent people, maimed thousands of people and children, bombed hospitals, killed babies, raped women and children across Afghanistan and Iraq here.

fermienrico 8y ago

Implying and providing justification for current actions based on past conduct is not only illogical, it just spits into the face of human progress. Hunter gatherers had tribal wars and cannibalism, racism was rampant and women were powerless in the past. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be “scarred of the horrors”.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

Scale and ability to learn from the mistakes of the past matters.

Karishma1234 8y ago
USA is probably civilised only in last 60 years or so. Otherwise the country was far too overtly racist and oppressive to minorities. Uighur muslims are just a million or so and minuscule on larger scale. Also, it might be better to de-radicalize them now before they start bombing your cities. For example if USA had not armed Osama Bin Laden, 9/11 was avoidable. China is taking precautionary measures to avoid future wars and terrorist attacks like 9/11.

Cormarant5 8y ago

Stop it. Post-slavery US behavior is far more favorable and accommodating to human rights than China today. Your comparison between the US and China is false and misguided. Individual rights are generally cherished and protected in the US; in China they are stomped upon by the Communist boot.

Karishma1234 8y ago
> Post-slavery US behavior is far more favorable and accommodating to human rights than China today. Asking me to stop will not change facts. Slavery was abolished in 1865, let us see what other things happened after that and what China is doing to Muslims is a page from the exactly same book. 1. 1882 - US government kicked out Chinese (and Indian) people from USA by enacting purely racist law called "Chinese Exclusion Act". Not only Chinese citizens were kicked out but citizenships were revoked retrospectively. The remenants of this law can be seen even today in green card country wise caps on India and Chinese. Cancellation of H4-EAD is just an example of how US admin has institutional racism against Indians and Chinese people. 2. 1942 - Internment of Japanese Americans. Absolutely disgraceful and yet exactly same as what China is doing to Muslims. 3. Forced sterilisation of people in early 20th century. China at least allowed people to have one child. http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilization-and-eugenics-programs-in-the-united-states/ http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilizati... 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment US government knowingly decides to let syphilis spread among black males. 5. There is an entire wiki article about other unethical medical experiments USA did on blacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentatio... 6. The current laws like Civil Asset Forfeiture and Marijuana prohibition targets black families and people from low income families depriving them of their own money and freedom. I am not even coming to the topic of how USA had destabilised perfectly stable countries like Iraq, killed thousands of innocent people, maimed thousands of people and children, bombed hospitals, killed babies, raped women and children across Afghanistan and Iraq here.