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I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Unless I am

I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Unless I am really misunderstanding the connection of Polymer and lit-html... But also JSX gives me an icky feeling, I'd rather use standards compliant code everywhere. (while I contradict this statement with my v-bind: stuff everywhere, lol) Plus, I got up and running with Vue.js on a major project in a day, and had reproduced a major jquery/ssr app in a week. I don't have much motivation to change at this point. Unless Vue.js esm build never materializes, but that is a ways off to be concerned about now. Thanks for the suggestions, I will take a look at lit-html again when I get a break.

spankalee 8y ago
| I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Google's a huge company that makes a huge number of things. Of course you're going to hear about canceled projects, but there are far more that aren't canceled. But trust what you will, I can't really argue for or against that. | But also JSX gives me an icky feeling, I'd rather use standards compliant code everywhere lit-html is standard JavaScript. It uses tagged template literals for markup rather than non-standard syntax. But because template are expressions, they're structurally very similar to JSX expressions, and there's basically a 1-1 relationship between JSX forms and lit-html. So if you like the power and flexibility of JSX, but not the non-standard syntax. I only suggested LitElement because of your desire for something like Vue but in pure ES6 modules and without a compiler. Since Vue is heavily inspired by Web Components, and LitElement meets your other requirements, I thought you might find it interesting.
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  >I only suggested LitElement because of your desire for something like Vue but in pure ES6 modules and without a compiler. Which I appreciate, thanks. I have looked into it, but it was so long ago I had forgotten about it. And to be frank, it hasn't gotten a lot of attention online. That being said, I will wait a while to see if Vue.js comes around with an ESM build (I guess I could make one myself, but that seems to brittle). And if not, then I will have motivation to look into another library/framework.
sjellis 8y ago
> I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Google will terminate free consumer products that don't work out, but my experience is that they will provide multi-year deprecation periods on things that developers or businesses rely on. For example, Angular 1 only went into maintenance mode last month, and will be supported until 2021.

spankalee 8y ago

| I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Google's a huge company that makes a huge number of things. Of course you're going to hear about canceled projects, but there are far more that aren't canceled. But trust what you will, I can't really argue for or against that. | But also JSX gives me an icky feeling, I'd rather use standards compliant code everywhere lit-html is standard JavaScript. It uses tagged template literals for markup rather than non-standard syntax. But because template are expressions, they're structurally very similar to JSX expressions, and there's basically a 1-1 relationship between JSX forms and lit-html. So if you like the power and flexibility of JSX, but not the non-standard syntax. I only suggested LitElement because of your desire for something like Vue but in pure ES6 modules and without a compiler. Since Vue is heavily inspired by Web Components, and LitElement meets your other requirements, I thought you might find it interesting.

RobertRoberts 8y ago
>I only suggested LitElement because of your desire for something like Vue but in pure ES6 modules and without a compiler. Which I appreciate, thanks. I have looked into it, but it was so long ago I had forgotten about it. And to be frank, it hasn't gotten a lot of attention online. That being said, I will wait a while to see if Vue.js comes around with an ESM build (I guess I could make one myself, but that seems to brittle). And if not, then I will have motivation to look into another library/framework.

sjellis 8y ago

> I don't trust anything Google builds anymore, they've thrown so many projects under the bus that I'm not willing to invest in anything they build. Google will terminate free consumer products that don't work out, but my experience is that they will provide multi-year deprecation periods on things that developers or businesses rely on. For example, Angular 1 only went into maintenance mode last month, and will be supported until 2021.