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Sigh. My comment has nothing to do with what you can do elsewhere. I was responding specifically to the false claim "aren't doing anything to prevent competitio

Sigh. My comment has nothing to do with what you can do elsewhere. I was responding specifically to the false claim "aren't doing anything to prevent competition" which is untrue, they are doing things.

scarface74 8y ago
Your claim was that you couldn’t have third party keyboards on iOS (untrue), you couldn’t have third party dialer (untrue), you couldn’t use third party development environments (untrue), you had to develop on the Mac (untrue). You couldn’t use a third party SMS client- Google Voice let’s you do that.
- kodablah 8y ago
  Unfortunately, whether we agree or not, automatic defaults, prominence of placement, ease of change, and several other factors all contribute to rulings of active competition prevention. That you can change (with or without caveats) is often not enough. None of it relates to the original false statement that Apple does nothing to prevent competition with their platform which it does for many values of platform. I was incorrect on the keyboard choice, but caveats about what the dialer can be used for or what system that you have to compile on remain. Again though, that's nitpicking here, they have restrictions on all sorts of places that will conveniently be ignored in responses (e.g. alternative installation methods) to make specific points. The general point stands, they actively stifle. To say they don't or that it's only 1 comes off as bias. To ask someone to list some examples to make the general, obvious point is a bit derailing.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Now you're changing the argument... What are the caveats with the dialer? To ask someone to list some examples to make the general, obvious point is a bit derailing. How is it "derailing" to ask you to give specifics and then systematically get them torn down?

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Sigh. My comment has nothing to do with what you can do elsewhere. I was responding specifically to the false claim "aren't doing anything to prevent competitio

by kodablah 8y ago

scarface74 8y ago
Your claim was that you couldn’t have third party keyboards on iOS (untrue), you couldn’t have third party dialer (untrue), you couldn’t use third party development environments (untrue), you had to develop on the Mac (untrue). You couldn’t use a third party SMS client- Google Voice let’s you do that.
- kodablah 8y ago
  Unfortunately, whether we agree or not, automatic defaults, prominence of placement, ease of change, and several other factors all contribute to rulings of active competition prevention. That you can change (with or without caveats) is often not enough. None of it relates to the original false statement that Apple does nothing to prevent competition with their platform which it does for many values of platform. I was incorrect on the keyboard choice, but caveats about what the dialer can be used for or what system that you have to compile on remain. Again though, that's nitpicking here, they have restrictions on all sorts of places that will conveniently be ignored in responses (e.g. alternative installation methods) to make specific points. The general point stands, they actively stifle. To say they don't or that it's only 1 comes off as bias. To ask someone to list some examples to make the general, obvious point is a bit derailing.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Now you're changing the argument... What are the caveats with the dialer? To ask someone to list some examples to make the general, obvious point is a bit derailing. How is it "derailing" to ask you to give specifics and then systematically get them torn down?