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Sorry, I deleted my comment because I felt it wasn't very useful. The software needs to be tied to the hardware because the carriers are completely incompetent

Sorry, I deleted my comment because I felt it wasn't very useful. The software needs to be tied to the hardware because the carriers are completely incompetent at software, and are generally unable to expend the effort to QA all the crapware they have put on the phone for a new OS; they also have a financial incentive to force you to buy a new phone from them as often as possible.

wvenable 16y ago
Yes, but the situation you describe exists because the software is tied to the hardware. When you upgrade Windows or install Linux on your PC, Dell doesn't have much to do with the process. I agree that both manufacturers and carriers are incompetent at software -- that's probably why my phones run so much better and faster with a custom ROM put together by some hacker in his basement. In my opinion, if the software wasn't tied to the hardware the result would be better.
- mquander 16y ago
  Sure, but Dell would love to have something to do with the process, and with phones, they can finally try their damnedest, e.g.: http://androinica.com/2010/07/14/motorola-says-if-you-want-to-flash-custom-roms-buy-from-another-company/ http://androinica.com/2010/07/14/motorola-says-if-you-want-t... http://www.tomsguide.com/us/G2-HTC-G2-Rootkit-Jailbreak-G1,news-8233.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/G2-HTC-G2-Rootkit-Jailbreak-G1,n... Android isn't really tied to hardware very much unless the carriers make it so. Hell, I can run Android on my Windows Mobile phone (Samsung Omnia II.)
124816 16y ago
> The software needs to be tied to the hardware because the carriers are completely incompetent at software AFAIK, the real reason is that there is no standardized design for phones, whereas most desktop/laptop/servers look basically the same to the OS.
- wvenable 16y ago
  Smartphones are remarkably similar. I can run Android on my older Windows Mobile phone with almost all the functions working (WiFi, phone, bluetooth, etc) because the hardware isn't vastly different. There are only a small number of mobile chipsets. Considering the huge variation of hardware a PC OS must handle, mobiles should be much easier.

wvenable 16y ago

Yes, but the situation you describe exists because the software is tied to the hardware. When you upgrade Windows or install Linux on your PC, Dell doesn't have much to do with the process. I agree that both manufacturers and carriers are incompetent at software -- that's probably why my phones run so much better and faster with a custom ROM put together by some hacker in his basement. In my opinion, if the software wasn't tied to the hardware the result would be better.

mquander 16y ago
Sure, but Dell would love to have something to do with the process, and with phones, they can finally try their damnedest, e.g.: http://androinica.com/2010/07/14/motorola-says-if-you-want-to-flash-custom-roms-buy-from-another-company/ http://androinica.com/2010/07/14/motorola-says-if-you-want-t... http://www.tomsguide.com/us/G2-HTC-G2-Rootkit-Jailbreak-G1,news-8233.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/G2-HTC-G2-Rootkit-Jailbreak-G1,n... Android isn't really tied to hardware very much unless the carriers make it so. Hell, I can run Android on my Windows Mobile phone (Samsung Omnia II.)

124816 16y ago

> The software needs to be tied to the hardware because the carriers are completely incompetent at software AFAIK, the real reason is that there is no standardized design for phones, whereas most desktop/laptop/servers look basically the same to the OS.

wvenable 16y ago
Smartphones are remarkably similar. I can run Android on my older Windows Mobile phone with almost all the functions working (WiFi, phone, bluetooth, etc) because the hardware isn't vastly different. There are only a small number of mobile chipsets. Considering the huge variation of hardware a PC OS must handle, mobiles should be much easier.