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I just drive an old beater. Sure-fire deterrent to theft, and even having things stolen out of it. It runs great, and I can fix it myself. A vehicle is a way

I just drive an old beater. Sure-fire deterrent to theft, and even having things stolen out of it. It runs great, and I can fix it myself. A vehicle is a way for me and my family to get from point A to point B.... I don't use it as a status symbol.

jhpankow 8y ago
anecdata: years ago i lived in a shady neighborhood for 5 years to save money, never washed my car. girlfriend moves in and washes my car making it look almost new. stolen within 3 months.
larkeith 8y ago
Heck, in most of the US just driving a manual will stop 95% of thieves.
chrisper 8y ago
So you just claim that everyone who prefers a nice ride and newer technological assistants etc is using their car for status symbol. I bet you also use only sandals to get from A to B? Because proper shoes would be a status symbol and no one wants to steal sandals. I am sorry but newer cars beat old ones in many points. Sure there is a point after your car becomes a status symbol, but being an old beater is not that point.
- m0nty 8y ago
  > So you just claim that everyone who prefers a nice ride and newer technological assistants etc is using their car for status symbol Where does avryhof make that claim?
  - chrisper 8y ago
    This pretty much implies that anyone that doesn't "just" use their car to get from A to B is using it as a status symbol (in his view at least): > A vehicle is a way for me and my family to get from point A to point B.... I don't use it as a status symbol.
    - m0nty 8y ago
      > This pretty much implies Well, according to you. I didn't read it that way at all. avryhof drives a beater car, but the loss of status that might imply doesn't mean much to them because it's just a way of getting from A to B. That doesn't remotely say that everyone else uses their car as a status symbol, just that driving a beater often implies low status or poverty. I drive a beater car -> I don't mind that it's not very prestigious -> It's just transport.
closeparen 8y ago
Not true. Old and popular cars with healthy demand for parts, like 90s Civics, are the most frequently stolen. (The model years just before electronic immobilizers are most at risk).
sbinthree 8y ago
In these parts, doing things for practical reasons is itself a status symbol. It would be more contrarian to say you own the most expensive car you can lease to get attention.

jhpankow 8y ago

anecdata: years ago i lived in a shady neighborhood for 5 years to save money, never washed my car. girlfriend moves in and washes my car making it look almost new. stolen within 3 months.

larkeith 8y ago

Heck, in most of the US just driving a manual will stop 95% of thieves.

chrisper 8y ago

So you just claim that everyone who prefers a nice ride and newer technological assistants etc is using their car for status symbol. I bet you also use only sandals to get from A to B? Because proper shoes would be a status symbol and no one wants to steal sandals. I am sorry but newer cars beat old ones in many points. Sure there is a point after your car becomes a status symbol, but being an old beater is not that point.

m0nty 8y ago
> So you just claim that everyone who prefers a nice ride and newer technological assistants etc is using their car for status symbol Where does avryhof make that claim?
- chrisper 8y ago
  This pretty much implies that anyone that doesn't "just" use their car to get from A to B is using it as a status symbol (in his view at least): > A vehicle is a way for me and my family to get from point A to point B.... I don't use it as a status symbol.
  - m0nty 8y ago
    > This pretty much implies Well, according to you. I didn't read it that way at all. avryhof drives a beater car, but the loss of status that might imply doesn't mean much to them because it's just a way of getting from A to B. That doesn't remotely say that everyone else uses their car as a status symbol, just that driving a beater often implies low status or poverty. I drive a beater car -> I don't mind that it's not very prestigious -> It's just transport.

closeparen 8y ago

Not true. Old and popular cars with healthy demand for parts, like 90s Civics, are the most frequently stolen. (The model years just before electronic immobilizers are most at risk).

sbinthree 8y ago

In these parts, doing things for practical reasons is itself a status symbol. It would be more contrarian to say you own the most expensive car you can lease to get attention.