I basically agree here. Some people, like DeVault, don't seem to think that there is any other threat model than "protect sysadmins from nationstates like the U

I basically agree here. Some people, like DeVault, don't seem to think that there is any other threat model than "protect sysadmins from nationstates like the US or big corporations or Mossad". I find such viewpoints rather dissapointing because I myself as a sysadmin don't hold it. My threat model is "someone steals my phone" and "someone (<1Mil. $ funding) tries to hack me". I don't particularly care that I don't know if the sand that was used to make silicon for my phone was properly sourced and audited for backdoors or plastic shovels. I want me and my family to be reasonably secure against the background noise of the internet. And of course not suck the battery dry like some thirsty vampire who was offered a bag of O-negative. For this task, Signal is fully sufficient (until another messenger does it better or matrix fixes their long list of problems I have with them).