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Ah man that's a shame I love Des's work but this article wasn't good. It's simple - just be open about what you want to achieve and assess the potential partne

Ah man that's a shame I love Des's work but this article wasn't good. It's simple - just be open about what you want to achieve and assess the potential partners feedback through a series of Q & A. Build a relationship based on trust and communication. There's no need to pass any test, let alone one based on fruit. I will agree with the sentiment around business breakfasts though. The most important meal of the day shouldn't be some bullshit breakfast meeting.

ozim 8y ago
But I don't want to build relationship I need one off breakfast for business people (or other consultancy one off work). I need it done, I need to hire new guy because my usual ones are not available. I don't want to get ripped off. If I want to build relationship I would start with small project and work with more important ones over months with that contractor. But reality is you have stuff to be done, you have to hire someone from the street NOW and deliver. You don't have budget/time to test out 5 guys.
destraynor 8y ago
Hey SimonsWords82 - Des here. Just wanted to say, I love this article, but it's not by me. It's a story from Gerry Weinberg's "The Secrets of Consulting". Gerry is an exceptional writer, who sadly passed away 2 days ago.
- simonswords82 8y ago
  Hi Des - thanks for the reply and insight I did not know that. I'll have a read of The Secrets of Consulting as it's the core of what I do and despite not enjoying this anecdote I'm sure there's some good stuff in there. Meanwhile, keep up the great work you and your team do, I'm a big fan. Edit: P.S. It's Simon Swords - an Irish name, we've got a castle just north of Dublin apparently that I've yet to claim!
  - destraynor 8y ago
    Ah! I know the castle well. Totally worth claiming: http://www.fingaldublin.ie/interior-pages/activities-attractions-amp-conference/castles-churches-and-towers/swords-castle/ http://www.fingaldublin.ie/interior-pages/activities-attract...

ozim 8y ago

But I don't want to build relationship I need one off breakfast for business people (or other consultancy one off work). I need it done, I need to hire new guy because my usual ones are not available. I don't want to get ripped off. If I want to build relationship I would start with small project and work with more important ones over months with that contractor. But reality is you have stuff to be done, you have to hire someone from the street NOW and deliver. You don't have budget/time to test out 5 guys.

destraynor 8y ago

Hey SimonsWords82 - Des here. Just wanted to say, I love this article, but it's not by me. It's a story from Gerry Weinberg's "The Secrets of Consulting". Gerry is an exceptional writer, who sadly passed away 2 days ago.

simonswords82 8y ago
Hi Des - thanks for the reply and insight I did not know that. I'll have a read of The Secrets of Consulting as it's the core of what I do and despite not enjoying this anecdote I'm sure there's some good stuff in there. Meanwhile, keep up the great work you and your team do, I'm a big fan. Edit: P.S. It's Simon Swords - an Irish name, we've got a castle just north of Dublin apparently that I've yet to claim!
- destraynor 8y ago
  Ah! I know the castle well. Totally worth claiming: http://www.fingaldublin.ie/interior-pages/activities-attractions-amp-conference/castles-churches-and-towers/swords-castle/ http://www.fingaldublin.ie/interior-pages/activities-attract...