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google scaling > amazon scaling ???

by ranman 8y ago

justicezyx 8y ago
You have to respect the reputation Google accumulated over the years. And no one will reveal anything to settle this debate.
some_account 8y ago
Joke of the week.
mrep 8y ago
I've read many comments here about how googles load balancers are way more reactive that amazons as amazons needs "warming" to get them ready. I've also heard great things about app engines dynamic scaling. Unfortunately, I cannot find any article purely related to it. Here is the article about amazons functions being way more reactive than microsofts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16099729 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16099729
- NathanKP 8y ago
  Amazon employee here. I can confirm that ALB and NLB do not need prewarming for most customers. If you are Epic Games running Fortnite on AWS, and you want to direct millions of player connections through a brand new, freshly provisioned load balancer then you should definitely talk to support to make sure the load balancer is prewarmed and ready for that level of traffic. But 99.99% of websites and service won't need intervention or prewarming at the load balancer level because the load balancer can and will scale up far faster than your backend server provisioning and scaling, or your database will. You only need to worry about prewarming a load balancer in the very specific conditions where you are immediately redirecting millions of active connections over to a new load balancer, and frankly there are very few companies that have that problem. Additionally even if you do have that problem Amazon gives you the tools to solve it without needing any manual prewarming. Any blue/green traffic switchover at massive scale should probably use a weighted Route 53 DNS record set. You wouldn't immediately cut 100% of your traffic over to a new load balancer, instead you should dial it up in percentage increments while testing and monitoring the new stack. ALB and NLB can autoscale up gracefully and automatically as you increase the DNS weight on the new DNS record.

google scaling > amazon scaling ???

by ranman 8y ago

google scaling > amazon scaling ???

You have to respect the reputation Google accumulated over the years. And no one will reveal anything to settle this debate.

some_account 8y ago

Joke of the week.

mrep 8y ago

I've read many comments here about how googles load balancers are way more reactive that amazons as amazons needs "warming" to get them ready. I've also heard great things about app engines dynamic scaling. Unfortunately, I cannot find any article purely related to it. Here is the article about amazons functions being way more reactive than microsofts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16099729 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16099729

NathanKP 8y ago
Amazon employee here. I can confirm that ALB and NLB do not need prewarming for most customers. If you are Epic Games running Fortnite on AWS, and you want to direct millions of player connections through a brand new, freshly provisioned load balancer then you should definitely talk to support to make sure the load balancer is prewarmed and ready for that level of traffic. But 99.99% of websites and service won't need intervention or prewarming at the load balancer level because the load balancer can and will scale up far faster than your backend server provisioning and scaling, or your database will. You only need to worry about prewarming a load balancer in the very specific conditions where you are immediately redirecting millions of active connections over to a new load balancer, and frankly there are very few companies that have that problem. Additionally even if you do have that problem Amazon gives you the tools to solve it without needing any manual prewarming. Any blue/green traffic switchover at massive scale should probably use a weighted Route 53 DNS record set. You wouldn't immediately cut 100% of your traffic over to a new load balancer, instead you should dial it up in percentage increments while testing and monitoring the new stack. ALB and NLB can autoscale up gracefully and automatically as you increase the DNS weight on the new DNS record.