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The parallels are striking. I just finished reading Neil Sheehan's A Bright Shining Lie, which is a story of Vietnam told through the lens of the experience of
by mturmon 8y ago
The parallels are striking.
I just finished reading Neil Sheehan's A Bright Shining Lie, which is a story of Vietnam told through the lens of the experience of one particular American officer, and later civilian consultant: John Paul Vann. I heartily recommend the book - winner of the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize, and authored by someone who was on the ground in Vietnam on and off during the war.
The book was published in 1988, so any parallels that are evident to Afghanistan and Iraq are not the backseat driving of the author.
One parallel, out of many, is that Vann many times lamented the lack of devotion the South Vietnamese Army had to the cause of Vietnamese independence. They largely wanted to avoid actual combat and profit off the American military machine by selling services, re-selling war materiel, accepting bribes for the other side, etc. And Vann said many times in the book that if he himself was a young Vietnamese, he would join the NVA (the North Vietnamese Army). And further, that he admired the grit and devotion the NVA had to the cause of independence.
Indeed, one could fill a page of further comments on the parallels: asymmetric tactics, politically powerful generals who lied about prospects for winning, presidents who kicked the can down the road, inability to win "hearts and minds", blaming the press when bad news gets out, ease of bombing versus difficulty of holding territory, "nation-building", installation of American-backed Vietnamese leaders (often emigres) who have no credibility in the country...
It is actually quite humbling. We should have known better.
- baud147258 8y agoWho started the Vietnam war?
- Gibbon1 8y agoThe French in the mid 19th century.
- arethuza 8y agoI don't think it does have a single simple cause. You could argue: - It was the French colonizing the country and imposing a nasty explotative regime - The French for refusing to decolonize the country post WW2 and fightning (and losing) a war to retain their colony - The US for refusing to help Ho Chi Minh when asked - The US for helping the French - The corrupt and brutal South Vietnamese regime propped up by the US - The brutal North Vietnam regime encouraged by the Soviets and Chinese to fight a proxy war against the West - The US for escalating after the Gulf of Tonkin incident
- baud147258 8y agoWell, I realised that my question wasn't very precise, still thank you for taking the time to answer it.
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- ionised 8y agoThe US or the French, depending on when you think the conflict started.