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> But when you have the whole internet as your audience, no matter how many times you are refuted, you can say it again and a whole group of people will be hear
by drb91 8y ago
> But when you have the whole internet as your audience, no matter how many times you are refuted, you can say it again and a whole group of people will be hearing it for the first time.
Why is that a problem? You can't force people to believe in reality. Might as well have this process happen in the open to actually provide a disincentive to believing conspiracy theories/propaganda/ads/fake news/whatever.
Hell, I'll go as far to say that controversial/commonly mis believed concepts are the most worth discussing in a public forum. For instance, consider white supremacy: if you give people a choice between social groups and make them feel welcome, they can use simple, self-serving logic to join the one that meets their needs. White supremacy doesn't help white people, rationally, it's just stupid, except for very convoluted goals. See: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/podcasts/the-daily-transcript-derek-black.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/podcasts/the-daily-transc...
If you don't enable conversations between white supremacists and anti-racists, there is no real choice--they'll gravitate the group where they're accepted.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago"Why is that a problem? " Ask the parents of children murdered at Sandy Hook.
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- AgentME 8y ago>For instance, consider white supremacy: if you give people a choice between social groups and make them feel welcome, they can use simple, self-serving logic to join the one that meets their needs. White supremacy doesn't help white people, rationally, it's just stupid, except for very convoluted goals. Doesn't the fact that white supremacists groups still get members contradict your idea here that people won't join them?
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- lmm 8y ago> Doesn't the fact that white supremacists groups still get members contradict your idea here that people won't join them? I think their point was that people join because they aren't welcome anywhere else; if there were other places where those people were welcome, maybe they wouldn't join those groups.
- pjc50 8y ago> White supremacy doesn't help white people It absolutely does help the people who believe in it: it gives them a sense of superiority and someone to blame. People walked away from lynchings with a sense of satisfaction and justice, not a recognition that they'd just committed a horrible crime. These aren't rational reasons, but since people can go through most of their lives without really having to do things for rational reasons that doesn't matter.