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""" The consultant is charged with system upkeep until the department finishes crafting “a 21st century holistic technology platform,” he said. The final techno

""" The consultant is charged with system upkeep until the department finishes crafting “a 21st century holistic technology platform,” he said. The final technology plan will be delivered to the court on Dec.1.""" crafting? holistic? platform? 21st century? Hmm, me thinks this "platform" is doomed from the onset if you plan on crafting a holistic platform plan by Dec 1, 2018 after still running a system crafted 22yrs ago.

redisman 8y ago
This "holistic" platform is the one that'll end up costing 20M when the Lotus Notes thing would've worked fine
- ekovarski 8y ago
  Holistic at 20m? Canada tried to bring to the table a holistic payroll system, known as phoenix, which cost them 1b before they decided to scrap it. :)
  - NikolaNovak 8y ago
    FWIW, there's nothing "holistic" about Phoenix - it is centralized payroll (same as Regional Pay System it replaces), but the HR is completely distributed amongst departments (running PeopleSoft, SAP, legacy or bespoke apps of various natures and kinds), and Pension, central index, etc are various separate monolithic applications as well. A very large percentage of problems can in principle be traced to the fact it is the very opposite of holistic system (note, I am in no way claiming that consolidating disparate HR systems into one, enforcing data cleanliness, and creating a "holistic" system could be done before heat death of the universe, for sum of money less than totality of our GDP, and resulting in anything else than chaos, confusion and disorder... just clarifying Phoenix was emphatically not an attempt to create such a "holistic" system :)
    - ekovarski 8y ago
      LOL - It was more tongue in cheek but you are right, Phoenix, wasn't an attempt to create a holistic system. Usually when I hear projects being spun as "holistic" it means to me that folks haven't done any basic groundwork yet on the requirements and its simply the pie in the sky approach to apps, we want it all in <12mos for half the cost.
deegles 8y ago
The consultant should have added a 25% price increase per year into the contract!

redisman 8y ago

This "holistic" platform is the one that'll end up costing 20M when the Lotus Notes thing would've worked fine

ekovarski 8y ago
Holistic at 20m? Canada tried to bring to the table a holistic payroll system, known as phoenix, which cost them 1b before they decided to scrap it. :)
- NikolaNovak 8y ago
  FWIW, there's nothing "holistic" about Phoenix - it is centralized payroll (same as Regional Pay System it replaces), but the HR is completely distributed amongst departments (running PeopleSoft, SAP, legacy or bespoke apps of various natures and kinds), and Pension, central index, etc are various separate monolithic applications as well. A very large percentage of problems can in principle be traced to the fact it is the very opposite of holistic system (note, I am in no way claiming that consolidating disparate HR systems into one, enforcing data cleanliness, and creating a "holistic" system could be done before heat death of the universe, for sum of money less than totality of our GDP, and resulting in anything else than chaos, confusion and disorder... just clarifying Phoenix was emphatically not an attempt to create such a "holistic" system :)
  - ekovarski 8y ago
    LOL - It was more tongue in cheek but you are right, Phoenix, wasn't an attempt to create a holistic system. Usually when I hear projects being spun as "holistic" it means to me that folks haven't done any basic groundwork yet on the requirements and its simply the pie in the sky approach to apps, we want it all in <12mos for half the cost.

deegles 8y ago

The consultant should have added a 25% price increase per year into the contract!