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Signal did what those things failed to do which is to actually gain some popularity outside of HN. I hope Matrix takes off! In the meantime if people are convin

by okatsu 8y ago

Signal did what those things failed to do which is to actually gain some popularity outside of HN. I hope Matrix takes off! In the meantime if people are convincing their families and friends to get on Signal then that's a net positive to me.

ynniv 8y ago
What's the point of gaining traction if it doesn't deliver on its fundamental promise?
- ashooner 8y ago
  Because the theoretical possibility of being monitored on Signal is preferable to the near-certainty of being monitored on Facebook Messenger.
  - ynniv 8y ago
    That's a strawman: you need to beat boring SMS and PSTN, not Facebook Messenger.
    - ashooner 8y ago
      Until I started forcing them to when I quit Facebook, I had no acquaintances that used SMS, they all use FB Messenger. This is the problem.
jsgo 8y ago
@ynniv - because if you can coax a friend who isn't on anything but Facebook to use Signal over, say, Messenger, then it is a net win. Is it perfect? No. Is it a better situation than the current? Yes.
- ashooner 8y ago
  Exactly. Signal's most important feature is that it isn't Facebook.