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You are mixing pears with rocks. I never bought a NES or these ROMs and I can still play them in this webpage. Also that just because you bought the original pr

You are mixing pears with rocks. I never bought a NES or these ROMs and I can still play them in this webpage. Also that just because you bought the original product it doesn't give you a livetime access to other future products or a license to rebrand and refurbish them. I believe this kind conversation is soon full of hypocrites who would be the first defensors of IP concept if the object of debate was their own IP... in case they could produce something profitable/valuable which is a major key point (it is easy to give for free the work from others).

derefr 8y ago
> I never bought a NES or these ROMs and I can still play them in this webpage. That is no argument. This website would be entirely above-board with one simple change: it buys N copies of each game, and ensures that only N people are playing at a time. That makes it, legally, a library. Libraries already make "digital loans"; and libraries already loan out game discs. This would just combine the two. If you're disputing the legality of any part of that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine > it doesn't give you ... a license to ... refurbish them. Yeah, maybe not in the US, yet. But it's really a thing people believe should be there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_right_to_repair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_right_to_repair > hypocrites who would be the first defensors of IP concept if the object of debate was their own IP No, this debate comes from people like 4am, who has de-protected 40-year-old abandonware games by defunct companies (https://archive.org/details/apple_ii_library_4am&tab=about https://archive.org/details/apple_ii_library_4am&tab=about) for the sake of allowing people to play them at all in the future, because if nothing is done, the disks will soon rot and no copies will be left in existence. The developers and publishers of these games frequently come to 4am and thank him for de-protecting these games. Because they never thought they'd see them again. That is not the stance of someone who resents having "their IP" shared with the world.
- navjack27 8y ago
  I know it's not directly translatable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo An antenna for everyone wasn't enough. How could "buying a copy for x" be enough.

derefr 8y ago

> I never bought a NES or these ROMs and I can still play them in this webpage. That is no argument. This website would be entirely above-board with one simple change: it buys N copies of each game, and ensures that only N people are playing at a time. That makes it, legally, a library. Libraries already make "digital loans"; and libraries already loan out game discs. This would just combine the two. If you're disputing the legality of any part of that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine > it doesn't give you ... a license to ... refurbish them. Yeah, maybe not in the US, yet. But it's really a thing people believe should be there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_right_to_repair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_right_to_repair > hypocrites who would be the first defensors of IP concept if the object of debate was their own IP No, this debate comes from people like 4am, who has de-protected 40-year-old abandonware games by defunct companies (https://archive.org/details/apple_ii_library_4am&tab=about https://archive.org/details/apple_ii_library_4am&tab=about) for the sake of allowing people to play them at all in the future, because if nothing is done, the disks will soon rot and no copies will be left in existence. The developers and publishers of these games frequently come to 4am and thank him for de-protecting these games. Because they never thought they'd see them again. That is not the stance of someone who resents having "their IP" shared with the world.

navjack27 8y ago
I know it's not directly translatable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo An antenna for everyone wasn't enough. How could "buying a copy for x" be enough.