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Yes, that’s another excuse that will inevitably be fielded: that those are “market” terms. It was tried in my case. Miraculously I ended up getting everything I

Yes, that’s another excuse that will inevitably be fielded: that those are “market” terms. It was tried in my case. Miraculously I ended up getting everything I wanted the moment I told them I was going to leave. Now, my negotiating position was unusually strong, and normally I wouldn’t get everything I wanted, but “market” is such a bullshit excuse in the case of early, core employees that it should be dismissed out of hand. Truly “market” terms are what you manage to negotiate. That having been said I didn’t actually request anything extraordinary.

tptacek 8y ago
Who are you talking to? I'm not the one telling you to accept contracts you don't want to accept. By all means, ask for stuff. But: my experience is, the fine-toothed-comb people end up asking for things that the company can't give, and then take to Twitter about the "red flags" they've identified, and all I'm saying is that it's a bad look. The legal wrangling, for most engineers, isn't going to do anything to improve the bottom line. Leaving and picking better companies, on the other hand, might.